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TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#53402: Feb 19th 2018 at 1:07:42 PM

This nickname was actually coined by his own side - RAF members called him "Butcher" Harris because apparently he was kinda indifferent when it came to aircrew losses during that campaign.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#53403: Feb 19th 2018 at 1:38:07 PM

The heavy bomber tactics of the day leaned heavily upon strength in numbers. Just one reason why the 8th Air Force alone suffered more men killed in combat than the entire US Marine Corps during WWII.

Marines ain't smart in the academic sense, but they're at least not known for running full-tilt through heavy artillery barrages without cover.

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#53404: Feb 19th 2018 at 2:25:43 PM

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Improvisation and breaking out of/holding the line during encirclements are time-honored traditions of the Corps, I've read.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#53406: Feb 19th 2018 at 2:51:58 PM

I believe being bomber crew was the second most dangerous job of the war if you were in the U.S army. The most dangerous was being a rifleman.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#53407: Feb 19th 2018 at 3:26:40 PM

IIRC, RAF Bomber Command actually suffered higher attrition rates than the US 8th Air Force in spite of their insistence on night bombing to theoretically reduce casualties to begin with.

Probably a direct result of the RAF lacking long-range fighter escorts capable of flying at night, allowing the Luftwaffe to engage them on more or less even terms with the latest radar technology and bombers converted into night fighters such as the Ju-88.

The seminal work of historical fiction on the British bombing campaign over Germany is Bomber by Len Deighton. It's a "Rashomon"-Style telling of a single raid from the perspective of the civilians and military personnel of both sides.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#53408: Feb 19th 2018 at 8:55:29 PM

Question-what would be a typical operating procedure for a first world nation's army when capturing child soldiers?

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#53409: Feb 19th 2018 at 9:21:00 PM

Same as any EPW (enemy prisoner of war):

  • Call higher HQ and let them know they have captives.
  • Restrain them if possible.
  • Wait for the relief to show up and take custody of the EPW's

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#53410: Feb 19th 2018 at 9:47:02 PM

https://www.armyrecognition.com/february_2018_global_defense_security_army_news_industry/iraq_nine_m1_abrams_tanks_ended_up_with_iranian-backed_militias.html

Reports are coming in that the nine Abrams are being used by Hashd al-Shaabi. And it's pissing GD off already because that's a clear violation of end user agreements.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#53411: Feb 20th 2018 at 1:20:26 AM

So, over the last week I had remembered/asked/committed/confirmed/etc more entries for my version of Skippy's List.

A Memorandum for CPL. Roy.

  1. You are not allowed to rub 1SG's head for good luck, no matter how shiny and round it is.

  2. No, BDE DCO (lieutenant colonel) does not want the dead bird you found in Humvee's battery.

  3. Never go full auto. Just don't.

  4. You are not allowed to make paper planes out of North Korean propaganda flyers and throw them around.

  5. Please don't ask Supply for various fruit-scented condoms.

  6. There's no such thing as rapid-eye-movement drills in PT.

  7. You are not allowed to try to tame the stray dogs as your minions.

  8. Your company is NOT a penal unit. No matter how many soldiers seem to agree.

  9. Please don't fall asleep during a major general's speech and be woken up by a command sergeant major.

  10. You are not allowed to write slash-fics featuring your unit's soldiers. Seriously, what's wrong with you.

  11. You are not allowed to dress up as a French maid while cleaning barracks.

  12. When officers from 2nd Infantry Division salutes back with "Fight Tonight", that does not mean you should wait until that night, find them, and challenge them to duel.

  13. Battle Royale is not an acceptable form of PT.

  14. PAO is not paparazzi.

  15. There is no such thing as the Mole People that you need to defend against.

  16. You are not allowed to claim you are a Nazarene to get out of shaving.

  17. You are not allowed to bribe the chaplain to make a memorandum that prove that you are, in fact, a Nazarene.

  18. When the BDE commander ask you how are you doing, please don't do things like saying "FABULOUUUUUUUUS!!!" with high-tone voice.

  19. You are not allowed to sneak in eagles into the base to make it more American.

  20. "TO OVERTHROW THE NORTH KOREAN GOVERNMENT" is not a valid reason for Pass.

Maybe the Army is starting to...affect me. [lol]

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#53413: Feb 20th 2018 at 2:57:34 AM

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Weapons trade contracts always do, although they can sometimes be relatively loose.

edited 20th Feb '18 2:58:05 AM by TerminusEst

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Imca (Veteran)
#53414: Feb 20th 2018 at 5:03:09 PM

What do they normaly look like?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#53415: Feb 20th 2018 at 5:11:53 PM

"plz don't sell this to the Russians/terrorists/use it to shoot children"

Oh really when?
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53416: Feb 20th 2018 at 5:14:32 PM

The Germans are withholding upgrades to Turkey's Leopards, citing breach of contract after Leopards were spotted operating in Afrin.

They should have sent a poet.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#53417: Feb 20th 2018 at 5:41:56 PM

And some have raised the possibility of blocking further F-35A transfers to Turkey over their recent antics. I doubt it will happen, Turkey is a major buyer and if the number of delivered platforms falls, the price goes back up.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#53418: Feb 20th 2018 at 5:57:45 PM

Same deal that went down between Ottawa and Manila over sales of Bell choppers to the Philippine Air Force over concerns that they won't be used for their original purpose (e.g. possibility of converting them to gunships by adding M Gs/rocket pods).

However, it didn't help that the PAF was ambiguous over it (although they said that they're going to be used in anti-insurgency ops by bringing civilians and wounded soldiers out of a hot zone) and a lot of netizens, even those who are critical of Duterte are calling salty over the deal and the Liberals should have shot down the deal sooner so that it won't be seen as Trudeau trying to win popularity points with the locals.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#53419: Feb 21st 2018 at 6:47:41 AM

IIRC, Israel usually has some strict limitations on how they can use American kit we sell them. Trade deals have been skewered over American distrust that the Israelis would actually follow the rules.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#53420: Feb 21st 2018 at 7:28:11 AM

It did give us that side splitting Southfront story about how an F-35A accomplished the unprecedented feat of shrugging off an SA-2 to the airframe, so it's not all bad.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53421: Feb 21st 2018 at 10:20:15 AM

Was that from the same guys who were claiming an Israeli F35 was secretly shot down in Syria?

They should have sent a poet.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#53422: Feb 21st 2018 at 10:34:35 AM

[up]They were claiming that a bird strike was a coverup of damage from an SA-5/S-200 (not an SA-2, my apologies for the flying telephone pole mixup).

With 200kg of HE-frag there are only two options. Either it misses, or the target no longer exists.

edited 21st Feb '18 10:34:50 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53423: Feb 21st 2018 at 10:46:22 AM

I do remember that. Considering Israeli F35s hadn't even reached initial operating capability at the time it seemed pretty laughable to begin with that one was out over Syria.

That and it's highly questionable an S200 would have been able to engage an F35 to begin with.

They should have sent a poet.
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#53424: Feb 21st 2018 at 10:55:24 AM

It was a rather silly story. I am not sure why anyone would believe that would fly.

Who watches the watchmen?
FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#53425: Feb 21st 2018 at 10:26:47 PM

Crossed on the Dominant Culture thread because it was simply too horrifically hilarious to not share:

I think it was in this thread where there was a discussion about Native Americans and the differing policies towards them by the British and French prior to the American Revolution.

So I was reading an magazine article about Braddock's Defeat which goes into detail about how General Braddock, fresh off the boat from England with absolutely no experience in warfare and diplomacy in the Americas, virtually doomed his own campaign by being too on the nose with native allies that otherwise intended on assisting the British.

Efforts to add a substantial force of Indian allies familiar with the back country failed miserably. Pennsylvania trader George Croghan, who had cultivated good relations with the Indians of the Ohio Country during the course of his career, rounded up Mingos who lived near his trading post north of Fort Cumberland, and also dispatched a messenger to the Ohio Country with an invitation for Delawares, Mingos, Oneidas, and Shawnees to come to the fort to meet with Braddock.

Braddock regarded the Indians with great disdain. He not only believed that Indians posed no threat to his regulars, but also that they would not benefit him as allies in a fight. The Indians, who wanted the French out of the Ohio Country, were inclined to work with the British.The most distinguished were Scarouady, who was half-king of the Iroquois in the Ohio Valley, and Shingas, the principal war chief of the Delawares.

Shingas asked Braddock what the English intended to do in regard to the back country once they had driven out the French. "The English should inhabit the land and inherit the land," replied Braddock, adding "No savage should inherit the land." The Indian leaders posed the same question to Braddock the following day in hopes of receiving a more palatable reply. During the ensuing discussion they told him that if they were going to shed their blood for the land, then they must be allowed to live freely upon it. Braddock told them in no uncertain terms that he did not need their help in expelling the French from the region.

It was a deeply offensive answer and had the immediate effect of alienating the Indians attending the meeting. All but Scarouady and seven Mingos returned home. When Shingas and the other members of the delegation returned to Ohio Country, they informed the members of their various tribes of Braddock's response. Not surprisingly, some of the Indians departed immediately to ally themselves with the French.

Braddock didn't grab the Idiot Ball. He saw it rolling down the mountain and willingly stepped in its path to give it a hug and got crushed in the process.

Seriously, that needs to be an entry in the Assin Ambassador page if a Real Life section was allowed.

edited 21st Feb '18 10:26:57 PM by FluffyMcChicken


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