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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#35826: Sep 3rd 2014 at 9:48:16 PM

I don't think Putin will do it because he believes in MAD, not because of any problem in the strategic rocket forces, which have been resolving since the bad old days in the 90s.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#35827: Sep 3rd 2014 at 9:50:14 PM

Don't underestimate the new bear. They've made incredible leaps and bounds in getting back into the game since the 90s. They had the Georgians for breakfast when they had some of our nicer kit and the other times we've met proper Russian gear we've ended up on the bad end of things.

Remember the RPG-29 knocking out those Abrams?

Oh really when?
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#35828: Sep 3rd 2014 at 9:58:11 PM

And here I thought that we had a "reset" with the Sov^^^ er I mean Russia.

Sadly, a lot of officers and senior NCO's who did have the experience training to fight large armies like the Russian Ground Forces, well a lot are heading to retirement. Those that weren't "downsized" in The '90s, or who left the dry rotting DOD of the Clinton-era.

Thankfully Russia is still the "midget with a big right arm". They always used their military to bully the west during the Cold War. But they let that arm go flabby after the Wall Came DownTM.

The problem was that the west never saw it. Europe was happy in their little coccon: their left and right could rage against US troops in Europe while they were happy to let a shrinking DOD foot the bill for NATO ops.

Clinton misread the end of the Cold War. He actually thought that North Korea would have gone the way of East Germany. George W. Bush was so blinded by 9/11 that when he "looked into Putin's soul" he missed. So I'm not surprised that the current tongs at Foggy Bottom are either saying Ukraine is nothing or are screaming "The End Is Near".

Funny that both cross party lines.[lol]

I'm not too afraid of Russia's little adventure in Crimea. "Things that can't go on forever won't. They will either pull out or run out of fuel and cash. Seems US sanctions are causing Russia's economy to head south.

China is the one to worry about. They see the west pretty much with out collective thumbs in our forth point of contact. China has many little Crimeas: Taiwan, the South China Sea, their support of North Korea.

As long as Russia and China are played against each other and sanctions keep working, things can work out. Otherwise, it's looking like 1939 out there...

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#35829: Sep 3rd 2014 at 10:13:55 PM

The big difference is it is lot easier to work with china by comparison.

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#35830: Sep 3rd 2014 at 11:49:23 PM

At the moment. Bet there were plenty of commentators muttering that Russia was a lot easier to work with back in 1995/96 and the Taiwan Strait Crisis.

Still, it does seem that the Chinese government tends to be more pragmatic and a lot more focused on internal stability, rather than the risks like straight-out invading a neighbor.

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entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#35831: Sep 4th 2014 at 4:57:23 AM

Apparently, laying down your weapons and waving the white flag is not cowardice, but engaging in a seven-hour fire fight and then retreating from your position is cowardice.

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#35832: Sep 4th 2014 at 6:29:59 AM

^ Remember, strength is weakness.

If there was cowardice to be had, it was Singha apparently refusing to put the surrender order in writing (from what I've seen elsewhere) so he could deny it if the fact was later brought to light.

In short, fuck UNDOF. With over a century of experience with the Moros the Filipino armed forces know what comes of surrendering to RIFs, and it ain't everyone gathering around a campfire and singing Kumbaya. tongue

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#35833: Sep 4th 2014 at 6:39:38 AM

Besides, they already knew what would happen if they laid down arms: Same thing that happened to the Fijians, being taken prisoner. Assuming that laying down their arms would result in the prisoners being released instead is just silly.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#35834: Sep 4th 2014 at 8:09:38 AM

[up][up]The Indians are well experienced with terror groups and dishonorable armies. Don't presume Singha's actions are somehow a commentary on Indian versus Filipino military thinking.

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#35835: Sep 4th 2014 at 8:26:42 AM

This is also a country that was ripped in half (Pakistan) and almost again with religious riots and mass murders by both sides. Entire neighborhoods were massacred in very bloody fashions.

That's even excluding the Sikh genocide and the random flareups in Goa thanks to the Portuguese. Hell, India's history pretty much begins with the Aryans annihilating the Dasas.

They have a lot to tread carefully about lest they repeat a bad mistake they can't afford. India has nukes. Pakistan has nukes. Everyone has to be smart with this.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#35836: Sep 4th 2014 at 7:55:04 PM

Airman denied reenlistment for refusing to say 'so help me God'

“Reciting ‘So help me God’ in the reenlistment and commissioning oaths is a statutory requirement under Title 10 USC 502,” Air Force spokeswoman Rose Richeson said Thursday. AFI 36-2606 “is consistent with the language mandated in 10 USC 502. Paragraph 5.6 [and] was changed in October 2013 to reflect the aforementioned statutory requirement and airmen are no longer authorized to omit the words ‘So help me God.’ ”

The Air Force said it cannot change its AFI to make “so help me God” optional unless Congress changes the statute mandating it.

When this goes to court, the airman is going to win this one. As it is, this requirement is either forcing him to swear to God (against his religious beliefs, against the Constitution he is also swearing to defend), or it is forcing him to give a false oath (against the Air Force's core values, in particular "Integrity", also against the rules set down by God, who they are trying to force him to swear an oath to).

So yeah, it's a mess. I'd be curious if the airman even wants to reenlist when this is all done.

edited 4th Sep '14 7:55:16 PM by AFP

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#35837: Sep 4th 2014 at 8:01:18 PM

[up]Might get a halfway decent settlement though. At least he's standing up for his principles.

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#35838: Sep 4th 2014 at 8:18:09 PM

AFP:I am with you on this one. It would be odd if he didn't win. Or worse yet rather telling if he lost.

edited 4th Sep '14 8:18:32 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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#35839: Sep 4th 2014 at 8:38:27 PM

Tiger Stripes Stay for Now in the Air Force

The Army announced that it will be replacing its old camouflage pattern with the new Operational Camouflage Pattern that carries a close resemblance to the Multicam pattern issued to soldiers and airmen in Afghanistan.

However, Air Force spokeswoman Rose Richeson confirmed that the Air Force will not follow the Army’s lead and will keep its tiger stripe pattern for garrison use. The decision by the Air Force marks a reversal from a decade ago when the Air Force was quick to adopt its own digital pattern after the Army unveiled its new pixilated Universal Camouflage Pattern in 2004.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#35840: Sep 4th 2014 at 9:16:02 PM

The tigerstripes are goofy, but the AB Us aren't all that bad for garrison use. No gain to spending a bunch of money on new uniforms.

Plus, the AC Us are made out of tissue paper. Super comfy, but they wear out fast. Wore a hole in a pair of trousers while working an office job.

Note: I'd rather we switch to multicam one way or the other, or go back to BD Us, but I entirely understand why that may not actually ever happen, if only due to cost. We'll just buy some more Army uniforms when we need to deploy and keep using what we've got at home.

edited 4th Sep '14 9:16:44 PM by AFP

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#35841: Sep 5th 2014 at 12:29:00 AM

[up] Apart from their Rule of Cool aura of badassery, tigerstripe camouflage is generally effective in tropical environments such as that of Southeast Asia, where the pattern is popular with the region's militaries. However, it's less well off in any other climate, and seems really unwieldy to be the general standard uniform that the USAF wanted it to be.

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#35842: Sep 5th 2014 at 12:50:55 AM

Yeah, fun fact, tropical jungles are a rare thing to find on your average airfield. And the grey-blue color scheme seems unlikely to blend with jungles anyways.

entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#35843: Sep 5th 2014 at 8:26:45 AM

Outgunned Philippine General Seeks Upgrade

Philippine military chief Gregorio Pio Catapang likens his task to a boxing match. Dwarfed by neighbors like China, with whom ties are strained, he’d like his forces to last at least a few rounds in the ring.

“Even if we are a bantam-weight fighting against a heavy weight, we are going to defend our sovereignty and national interest,” General Catapang, 55, said in an interview in his office in Manila yesterday. “We renounce war as a national foreign policy, but we will have to stand and show the world we are a principled country.”

Sitting in his office surrounded by history, philosophy and psychology books Catapang, who has been in the job since July, sets out his priorities for an army that for years was occupied by an insurgency in the south. With China building artificial islands in the resource-rich South China Sea and boosting its naval presence to support its territorial claims, the focus for the Philippine military is turning outward.

Catapang is looking to boost defenses in Ulugan Bay on the island of Palawan, the Philippine military post about 160 kilometers (99 miles) from the disputed Spratly archipelago. He’s also seeking lawmakers’ approval for about $10 billion to buy fighter jets and warships to achieve a “world-class armed forces” by 2028. China’s defense budget this year is about 47 times that of the Philippines’ 123 billion pesos ($2.8 billion) — 1 percent of gross domestic product.

edited 5th Sep '14 8:27:29 AM by entropy13

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#35844: Sep 5th 2014 at 1:06:53 PM

BBC: UK aircraft carrier Prince of Wales to go into service

The Royal Navy's second new aircraft carrier, the Prince of Wales, is to be brought into service rather than sold off or mothballed, Prime Minister David Cameron has announced.

The news came as members of the 28-nation Nato alliance pledged to reverse declining trends in defence budgets at a summit in Wales.

The Prince of Wales' future had been in question since the 2010 defence review.

Work on the carrier, which began in 2011, is due to be completed in 2017.

Of course this is assuming that it even gets built in the first place.

edited 5th Sep '14 1:22:11 PM by Deadbeatloser22

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#35845: Sep 5th 2014 at 2:26:09 PM

That they even considered selling it right off the bat is either insane, or a throwback to when Britain built everybody's navy for them

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#35846: Sep 5th 2014 at 2:42:16 PM

[up] It almost happened to the previous generation of carriers — one was almost (or was) sold to the Australians. And then The Falklands War broke out...

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#35847: Sep 5th 2014 at 6:36:34 PM

Until Putin did his little Ukrainian excursion, Europe was happy to let NATO wilt on the vine.

Even this small uptick isn't enough. Europe needs to pull it's own weight. US forces are tiny compared to what they were even ten years ago. And if the Pacific heats up, they'll shrink again.

As for the Philippines, they need to lobby for some of that sweet, sweet, US government surplus: MRAP's, OH-58's, UH-1N's, C-130's, C-27's, patrol boats, older frigates. They could give them a good home.

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#35848: Sep 5th 2014 at 7:12:39 PM

[up] What the Phillipines seriously needs is a half-decent navy; IIRC, it's becoming increasingly common for fishermen in the northern islands to go out of business because the PLAN (People's Liberation Army Navy) have occupied their traditional fishing grounds. That's not even mentioning the island bases that the Chinese are instructing. You know your navy is an absolutely pathetic one when its largest combat vessel is a single coast guard cutter. sad

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#35849: Sep 5th 2014 at 7:16:30 PM

How is Europe supposed to rearm when it's already strapped for cash and governments are cutting spending everywhere they can. Rearmament is unpopular on a good day, imagine how bad it will be taken if it's done while social services are being cut because the governments and banks screwed up and everyone but them has to pay for it.

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#35850: Sep 5th 2014 at 7:22:01 PM

[up] Break Out the Museum Piece I suppose; hopefully European militaries still have stocks of weapons and equipment left over from the Cold War, especially Germany what with its formerly huge conscript armies. Re-militarization, if done slowly and cautiously, could also help get the EU's economy kicking into gear with the increased job opportunities and so forth - the arms industries would surely benefit, while militaries would be more inclined to compete with civilian employers in attracting young people.


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