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Regarding Blackfire's backstory, we see a flashback on panel of his dealings with the Indians and Pilgrims, and the police find DNA evidence that suggests Blackfire has been committing crimes for centuries.

HOWEVER, at the same time, the police note the DNA could just be from his ancestors, and Batman states that Blackfire could just as easily have been a petty con-man as he could have been a thousand-year old shaman.

The story itself kind of leaves it up to the reader to decide if they believe he's really that old, which begs the question: Should I do his writeup on the belief that he really is thousands of years old, or should I write him up as if he was just a psycho pretending to be thousands of years old. Hmmmm....

Also, I do believe this is a good pic of him to use at Image Links (Image Uploader isn't working, so just check out the link).

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edited 11th Feb '16 11:33:54 AM by Ravok

Like the image. Also, for the writeup, maybe mention that it's ambiguous somewhere?
P.S. Could you please add the Shadow Man quotes to Quotes.Complete Monster?

Hmmmm, pointing out it's ambiguous is probably the best idea.

As for the quotes, I shall get them added ASAP.

So, I was reading a few articles on the SCP Foundation website, and I had come upon a potential candidate. I feel like I don't need to explain what the SCP Foundation is, but for those who are unaware, the SCP Foundation is a website regarding a fictional secret organization known as the Secure, Contain, and Protect Foundation, otherwise known as the SCP Foundation. The foundation studies, catalogues, and contains SCPs, which refers to artifacts and creatures that could serve as a potential threat to humanity. The one SCP that I had read about was SCP-352 [1].

Who is she? What has she done?

SCP-352 is a Keter class SCP that resembles a very old woman. She speaks in an Old Russian accent, which makes translating what she says very difficult. Most of her background is unknown, but what is known, however, is that she is an insatiable predator.

SCP-352 has the ability to grow hair-like strands from any part of her body, and each strand secretes an enzyme that immediately attacks the nervous system if a strand were to come in contact with human tissue. Symptoms include hallucinations, euphoria, diminished logical thinking and pain receptors. This usually lasts for several weeks, but the effects could become permanent if one were exposed to a high concentration of the enzyme.

352 uses her hairs to create a web which she uses to lure her victims into her grasp. Usually, the victim would be docile upon being fully exposed to the enzyme. Once she has her prey, she rips their limbs off so that they wouldn't wander off, and it could take up to days for her to completely consume her prey, while said prey is conscious, but they're in a euphoric state, meaning that they have no knowledge of the outside world, nor of them having their limbs removed. While she's carnivorous, and chooses to eat human flesh, she especially loves the flesh of children between the ages of 0 to 2 as evidenced by an evaluation of her eating habits. Pretty much, she's Baba Yaga in all but name.

After several reports of an old woman killing people in a small southern Russian town, the Foundation arrived to capture Baba Yaga, but not before realizing that the town was completely deserted. Several bodies were scattered throughout the ground, and trails of blood were seemingly leading into a forest. A few reports had been filed earlier of a witch murdering people after luring them into an "enchanted forest," but they were ignored by the Foundation at first. The Foundation manages to attain SCP-352, but not without suffering from heavy casualties.

Freudian Excuse? Mitigating factors?

SCP-352 is one of the few sentient creatures within the foundation, meaning that she is able of thinking. When she was captured and imprisoned, she hardly ever communicated with any of the members. When she does, however, she threatens them with bodily harm, thus showing that she is a spiteful being. As I had already mentioned, while Baba Yaga indiscriminately eats any human that she comes across, she prefers to eat children, because they were more delicious. She is also somewhat of a glutton, having eaten an entire town during a short period of time.

Heinous standard

She isn't the most powerful creature in the SCP Foundation universe, but she did manage to have a huge body count that puts her on the same level as the other SCPs. That, and the way in which she eats her prey is purely terrifying.

Conclusion

I believe that she counts, though I'll just leave it with you guys.

Now, I personally view the website as being entirely separate from any Creepypastas, and as such, most of the content within the articles doesn't go so far as to be edgy, like some Creepypastas; instead, they just center around a fictional organization. With 352, it never goes into vividly describing what she does to her victims to make it come off as being "My SCP is more badass than your SCP."

edited 11th Feb '16 2:37:24 PM by AustinDR

Baba Yaga

Baba Yaga, That'd be our 5th SCP BTW.

• Baba Yaga, I think
• Added the Grand High Witch's write-up to Complete Monster Stuff,
• Any more votes for the images for Monster.Live Action TV?
• Should I propose Frieza's new image and caption in the crowner, or in a new thread? Or does someone else cover that?

Deacon Blackfire. I was vaguely aware of his existence but I had no idea he was that bad. As with the zombie viking guy from Thor I have no idea how the city could've survived after him.

Blackfire. Another convenient bad guy name.

He also came back during Blackest Night and massacred a church full of people, but I think that'd be on Nekron rather than him.

to Deacon Blackfire and Baba Yaga.

Deacon Blackfire.

to Baba Yaga. Blackfire's messiah complex seems more like narcissism than anything else, so a definite to him, too.

For anyone who's curious, Blackfire also turns up in Batman: Arkham Knight. He's nowhere near as prominent or destructive as in the comic, and doesn't even come close to the heinous standard of Joker or Scarecrow, so he's not a contender in the game.

On another Batman-related note, does anyone else think that a version of Hush might one day be CM material? I know he doesn't qualify in the comics (fails the heinous standard, right?), but he seems like the kind of character who might go over the line in an adaptation.

As far as being horrified by Monsters goes, I don't think I'm completely numb, but crimes like murder and dictatorial oppression don't faze me much. That said, things like rape and especially horrific tortures stand out for me. Maybe that's why I found Kilgrave so disturbing.

The really over the top monster character found in every made-in-your-basement horror flick ever made is actually Narmy to me.

So I had found a picture that I had found on the internet that could possibly be used for the Monster.When They Cry page [1]◊. It is of the leader of the Orphanage of Fear that Takano was sent to.

edited 11th Feb '16 5:44:21 PM by AustinDR

to both Deacon Starfire and SCP 352.

Yeah murdering a child and raping a child to me seems like bog-standard villainy now. Remember when it was a big deal when a character raped a child? Now it's just like... "Eugh... another one?!" I don't even think I'm going to up vote any villain who just murders a child and nothing else.

Now if the character did it in a particularly sadistic way or murdered multiple children all of whom were bystanders then yes. I used to be horrified at those Fire Emblem bad guys who used hostages like townsfolk (that one in Chapter 1-6 of Radiant Dawn. He's the "hornet hairs!" Begnion general.) and decided to kill them don't seem to be heinous enough to me anymore where in the beginning I might have proposed him. Maybe it's because Fire Emblem has such a high heinous standard with many of the villains committing continental genocide and being total racist bastards, but I don't think even if it didn't I would propose them now. I've learned my lesson from proposing insufficiently heinous villains. But damn, it's funny how long it's been since the start.

As for three dimensional C Ms I've proposed there's Andross (Lighty did the effortpost but I brought him up first), Dickson (you can tell he's trying his best to act like a good guy but by the end he just gives up and did at first share camaraderie with Dunban but it's long gone by the end similar to Griffith), and Zant of course. Zant's struggles with sanity make him all that more interesting. We think he'll eventually end up totally insane but it's all an act. And I guess Phantom could be one too since even though Phantom was up on the page before I touched up on his crimes.

Speaking of which, does Agatha Trunchbull from Matilda really belong in this trope? I saw the movie version, and she did not seem like a CM to me at all. She forced a kid to eat an entire cake, she yelled at the children and was a jerk, and... that's about it. The only things that really stood out to me was the Chokey, and the scenes where she was throwing children. There was no indication that I recall hat she intended to kill the children, and none of them are any worse for ware in the end. While it is implied that she murdered her brother in law, it is never confirmed, and either way, it would still be Offscreen Villainy. The movie also treated her "defeat" (being scared out of town and never working in a school again) as all that she needed as a punishment.

Not quite sure on Trunchbull, but I read the book when I was younger, and IIRC, the book made it more explicit that she killed her brother-in-law.

Trunchbull was decided long ago. Since her murder of her brother-in-law was the impetus for the entire plot despite being offscreen, we let it in.

I'm not sure if Agatha actually wanted to kill the children or not, she certainly didn't care that her cruel "punishments" were putting them at risk of dying or at least serious injury. I think it was even made explicit that the Chockey did nearly kill the children that were in it. I don't think Would Hurt a Child is an automatic qualifier but with Agatha I can see some arguments. I'm not saying I fully agree with her being here but she's a nasty piece of work to be sure.

How high does It rank in terms of Complete Monster status?

Pretty high? It's a rare example of an Eldritch Abomination with full agency and morality

I gotta vote against Trunchbull. Hell she doesn't even die; she just get scared off and runs away. Now I know that technically fate has nothing to do with a character being a CM or not, but honestly if an author as well as the story think that being scared away is enough to punish her, that is a good sign that she doesn't belong.

edited 11th Feb '16 8:18:26 PM by emperors