Type-Moon: Fate/stay night, Tsukihime, and Kara no Kyoukai discussion

I suppose that's another way to put it but that also wasn't exactly what I was saying.

Denial is a thing. A thing Saber likes.

@ KSPAM

Thanks

edited 18th Sep '14 1:10:31 AM by HallowHawk

Rob: She was not the hero they deserved, but the one they needed. There, I did it for you.

Zelenal: Kinda like how Batman, the caped crusader, Bruce Wayne, the president of Waynecorp and Bruce Wayne, the tortured child who sees his butler as a father and his disciples as his children are all the same being, but are vastly different people.

edited 18th Sep '14 7:24:04 AM by SaintDeltora

You know, reading about Sakura Saber and her NPs and techniques, she seems like a weird combo of Joke Character, Weak, but Skilled, and Fragile Speedster

I mean, her stats are crap (her only saving grace is her A+ Agility) and her class skills are low ranked, but her personal skills are pretty decent (she has a skill that closes the distance between enemies and a sword technique which has been compared to False Assassin's Tsubame Gaeshi). Her Noble Phantasms are...things. One is her uniform, which basically just buffs her stats (though how much it doesn't say. Hopefully to "can take a single hit from an average Servant" levels), and the other is her flag, which basically serves as a crappier version of Zero Rider's NP and summons her comrades as weak, NP-less Servants.

I dunno, I still think that if all of Fate were a fighting game, Sakura Saber would still be the Dan of the Sabers.

edited 18th Sep '14 8:06:11 AM by Otherarrow

At least both are real (wo)men wear pink.

Any references to Clockwick canaan-vail in any other Type-Moon I Ps?

x4 Exactly.

I think only the 10th anniversary event showed it a bit. Since there's no magic in Canaan, it wouldn't fit in with the main I Ps.

The closest connection I think you can make are the Pure Eyes, which helps you see the supernatural and in which Kiri Nanaya was able to wall hack and see people's emotions as colors which helped him to discern them.

I haven't watched Canaan.

I recall Nasu saying somewhere that Canaan is explictly not canon (tee hee) though having watched the series, there isn't anything that really contradicts the Nasuverse rules. Shrug.

Sakura Saber is definitely less of the BEAMU SPAM-type Saber, and more of a tactical skirmisher. I'm guessing her uniform is maybe a rank-up to Strength and Endurance at the least, maybe Luck as well, and possibly a Magic Resistance boost (from awful to mediocre). In addition to either giving her a better sword or buffing her normal one, the wiki isn't clear or I just can't read it.

Really, I like her. Unconventional design, and not exactly high-power? Yeah, but she's also cool and kinda awesome in her own way.

and I wasn't referring to Canaan, the anime based on 482 Fusa Sareta Shibuya de, I was referring to the one-shot manga Takeuchi wrote and drew while Nasu wrote Angel Notes at the same time.

Seeing as Takeuchi wrote and submitted it to the project without Nasu's involvement or contribution (as you mentioned, Nasu submitted Notes instead), no, it probably isn't considered canon in the slightest and there is no reason to reference it. It's basically a unrelated thing Takeuchi also did. (though Takeuchi did apparently base Ciel on the heroine of another independent project of his)

Come to think of it, it was a doujin anthology centered on angels. Has anyone gotten the whole thing and translated everything and shit, or did they just translate Notes and call it a day?

Also, Canaan isn't so much based on that game as it is a sequel (abit the game seems to be only Broad Strokes canon to the anime, due to the other story routes contributed by other authors)

edited 18th Sep '14 4:47:53 PM by Otherarrow

When I meant "reference," I didn't mean like referencing the Auto-men. What I meant are stuff like making cameos. I mean, we should have gotten Gabriel cameos in say Carnival Phantasm and the Kara No Kyoukai movies.

Funny, because I remember that in Clockwick, one of Gabriel's customers is guy whose wife is expecting a baby, and that his hairstyle is sort of like Archer Shirou's.

Are you referring to the Valkyrie series Takeuchi wrote?

No. Why would we get a cameo from something that is flat out not related to anything Nasu worked on aside from being part of the same anthology? Seriously, why would Nasu reference something that has nothing to do with him at all?

No, I mean the anthology Notes was published in. All I know about it is that its angel themed and Takeuchi submitted the Clockwork thing as his contribution. I could look up the name if you want.

edited 18th Sep '14 6:44:11 PM by Otherarrow

Well, regardless of who wrote it, isn't Clockwick still a Type-Moon IP, or is it because it's not by Nasu that the Type-Moon execs don't want to reference it much?

My bad. Thought you were referring to Valkyrie. Sure, look it up please.

No. It is not an Type-Moon IP. Takeuchi wrote it as a independent thing, separate from what Nasu was doing, before Type-Moon was a thing. When Type-Moon became a thing, I think they only cared to "claim" stuff Nasu already did (such as Kara no Kyoukai, Notes, and the early, two-copies-exist, version of Mahoyo).

The anthology was called Angel Voice.

So Sakura Saber can summoned other shinsengumis when she uses Makoto no wata but very small group.

I'm really like Oda's design even more.◊

Oda demonstrates about how she kills Divinity and Mystery servants.◊

Oda 2 gud

Demon Archer just shoots them? Makes sense I guess!

Shockwaver99:

So basically, for her anti-mystery power to kick in, she has to actually know enough about them to be able to identify the mystery elements of their histories?

That's...not nearly as broken as originally suggested?

Wait, to kill? So if she knows those things, she can just shoot them dead without a moment's time to waste?

Demon Archer's Master needs to work on getting those Matrix ranks up.

Well......

I think "just shoot them already" is best way to identify whether servant is mystery or not. Just look at picture again, she shoots without any mercy, that's Nobunaga for you.

EDIT: OKAY NEVERMIND, Shockwaver99 confirms she will kill you with no mercy and doesn't give a crap about you and your background. Unless you are non-Divinity and non-Mystery servant, surely you can survive from her attack.

edited 18th Sep '14 8:46:20 PM by Shinichameleon

Is Nasu the main writer for the upcoming Fate game?

You mean Fate/Grand Order? Yes, it's confirmed that Nasu will be main writer of F/GO.