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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#26: Aug 22nd 2017 at 7:10:27 PM

Those are different from cards for Silent Movies which are part of the plot.
Part of the plot?

Those dialogue cards were added to Silent Movies because you couldn't hear what the actors were saying. Why does the change to Closed Captioning mean Dialogue is no longer part of the plot?

edited 22nd Aug '17 7:50:25 PM by crazysamaritan

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Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#27: Aug 23rd 2017 at 3:33:05 PM

OK, if this is truly a Trope, then what would a proper non-ZCE example look like?

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#28: Aug 23rd 2017 at 9:16:30 PM

That partially depends on exactly how broad the page is intended to represent "words on the screen".

  • Does SDH count as CC or not?
  • Do regular English Subtitles count as CC or not?
  • Does Rear Window and similar devices used in theaters count?
It also depends on if we need to include work examples or declare examples Too Common To List, given it's prevalence in English-speaking nations (note: captions are even more rare outside of Western culture).

  • The subtitles provided by Netflix for streaming Breaking Bad introduced censoring on "bad language" compared to the audio track. While the English audio would say "shit" or "fucking", the subtitles present "——" and "———-".
  • Science And Futurism With Isaac Arthur is a YouTube program whose narrator, at the start of every episode, reminds his audience to turn on the captions to help understand his content despite his speech impediment.
  • Sing does not provide a CC track, but it does include Subtitles for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing. Regular dialogue is presented in a basic typeface with proper capitalization, a few sound effects are presented in all capital letters and enclosed in square brackets, most of the songs are noted with Eighth Notes and square brackets enclosing the musical genre, while the one line of singing dialogue is written in italics and enclosed in Eighth Notes.
  • The YuYu Hakusho DVD provides two different English subtitle tracks, but no Closed Captioning. The first track is the same translation as the English audio, and presents the Opening Narration in italics. The second English track is a different translation from the English audio; it also translates the opening Title Card and Episode Title Card. Romanized words, Inner Monologue, and Opening Narration are all presented in italics.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#30: Aug 24th 2017 at 12:28:02 PM

Hooked.

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jameygamer Since: May, 2014
#31: Sep 10th 2017 at 10:59:05 PM

Okay, so it's 15 yeas to convert Closed Captioning into a Useful Note. I think that's enough.

What do we do now?

Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#32: Sep 11th 2017 at 9:44:23 AM

Looks safe to call. Let's do it.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#33: Sep 16th 2017 at 3:16:10 PM

I still don't have an answer to my earlier questions:

That partially depends on exactly how broad the page is intended to represent "words on the screen".
  • Does SDH count as CC or not?
  • Do regular English Subtitles count as CC or not?
  • Does Rear Window and similar devices used in theaters count?
Aside from that, I've copied the text over to UN/, made the Main/ page a redirect, and started repairing the wicks to the UN/ page.

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AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#34: Sep 16th 2017 at 5:26:43 PM

[up] So that means we're done here?

jameygamer Since: May, 2014
#35: Sep 21st 2017 at 10:44:25 PM

The page has been converted to a Useful Note, and the Main now redirects to it.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#36: Sep 22nd 2017 at 6:22:14 AM

I also checked all of the wicks; deleting or changing as appropriate. Unless someone plans to give me advice on improving the description, I suppose the thread can be closed.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#37: Sep 22nd 2017 at 7:28:03 AM

Moved the discussion page and made a note, closing now.

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