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Apparently some people find it easier to copy-paste text from other sources, including Wikipedia or the creator's original site, instead of coming up with their own text.

However, this could get the website in a ton of legal trouble for plagiarism and/or copyright violations. (Not to mention it's lazy writing to boot.) Since stopping that problem is a very high priority, and I've observed multiple cases of this problem as of late, let's give this its own dedicated clean-up thread. If you see any work, character, or recap descriptions that copy another source word-for-word, bring them up here if you're not sure how to immediately fix them.


Moderator notice: If you cannot immediately rewrite plagiarized text, remove it and put in a placeholder note. A sample follows:

[This description was copied in violation of our [[Administrivia/AboutImagesAndCopyright Plagiarism]] policy. Please replace it with original writing.]


Below is a list of currently known pages that suffer from this problem, and the source they copy from. (This list can be updated by mods or by me, Totemic Hero.) The ideal goal is to have these pages fixed within a week or two of finding out about the copy-paste. If we can't manage to come up with a fix in that time frame, then we'll probably have to outright Cut List said pages, because the site can't risk legal issues.

Currently known pages with copied text

Characters.Overwatch - Character descriptions partially copied from Blizzard's official site
Recap.American Horror Story - Recap descriptions mostly copied from the show's wiki
Recap.Charmed - A number of recap descriptions are copied from the show's wiki
Characters.Smite - Character descriptions transcribed from the character videos
Literature.Repairman Jack - Parts of work description copied from Wikipedia
Characters.Infinite Crisis - Parts copied from old version of official website (needs checking to see if still there)
WesternAnimation.Happy Ness The Secret Of The Loch - Description copied from VHS tape box
ComicBook.Alpha Gods - Part of work description copied from official website
Music.Among The Living - Part of description copied from Wikipedia
Creator.Kurt Sutter - Part of description copied from Wikipedia
Fanfic.Past Sins - Work description copied from host site
TabletopGame.Beyond The Supernatural - Work description copied from Wikipedia
Creator.Van Beuren Studios - Description apparently copied from a blog
Main.Footnote Fever - Text of a number of examples copied from Wikipedia
WesternAnimation.Camberwick Green - Part of description copied from Wikipedia
Series.Weinerville - Part of description copied from official website
Film.Yamashita The Tigers Treasure - Description copied from Wikipedia
Creator.David Lowery - Description copied from Wikipedia
Creator.Raphael Bob Waksberg - Description copied from Wikipedia
Creator.Kazuki Takahashi - Majority of description copied from Wikipedia
VideoGame.Action Taimanin - Many examples copied from the AllTheTropes wiki, including on subpages

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 25th 2023 at 5:26:38 AM

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Ladyofpayne Since: May, 2012
#77: Apr 7th 2017 at 8:00:51 AM

I am about to fix that. Please remove this note.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#78: Apr 7th 2017 at 8:23:34 AM

And now it's full of spelling and grammar problems. Trading one kind of cleanup for another doesn't really win points here. sad

I strongly suggest visiting the English help thread before making any more edits.

edited 7th Apr '17 8:25:23 AM by TotemicHero

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Ladyofpayne Since: May, 2012
#79: Apr 7th 2017 at 8:25:48 AM

Fixed. Please take a look.

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#80: Apr 7th 2017 at 8:29:54 AM

Not sure if that was in response to me or just claiming you had finished your copy-paste "fix", but still tons of bad English grammar and misspellings all over the place. ~Fighteer, you may want to take action.

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#81: Apr 7th 2017 at 8:32:36 AM

/sigh

Well, it's not plagiarized but now it's terribly written. I suppose we should cut it?

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#82: Apr 7th 2017 at 8:36:11 AM

I'll run it by the work/creator description improvement thread, and see if they feel like doing anything. If they don't, then it can probably be cut.

Either way, it's outside this thread's scope now. Removing it from the list.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#83: Apr 20th 2017 at 10:45:41 AM

I am going through the wicks to Archive of Our Own for a different project, and noting that the "synopsis" section in Fan Fic Recs seems to have copy-pasted the information from the source frequently. I'm unsure to the admissibility of this so I'm suggesting a review.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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#84: Apr 22nd 2017 at 8:54:20 AM

You'll need to highlight more specific examples: there are a LOT of Fanfic Recs pages.

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#85: Apr 22nd 2017 at 10:09:03 AM

It's pretty common in general.

I think it's permitted since the fics are already being sourced with links, plus it's just the synopsis.

edited 22nd Apr '17 10:12:07 AM by Karxrida

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#86: Apr 22nd 2017 at 10:43:35 AM

I'm pretty sure that rec pages get used at times as impetuses for launching work pages for recommended fics. As such, I really don't want bad habits like copy-pasting carried over. If it's not acceptable on work pages, it shouldn't be acceptable on the rec pages.

If it's really that ubiquitous, that's a extremely bad sign. If we have to purge the majority of recommendations because of copy-pasted content, then it becomes a question of if it's worth keeping what's left - and whether or not the concept of fanfic rec pages needs to die. But that's not my call - and regardless, that call can't be made either way without more specific information about how prevalent the copy-pasting is. Hence why I asked for details.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#87: Apr 22nd 2017 at 10:48:42 AM

It's only the synopsis (read: one to two sentences designed by the author to concisely summarize the work) being c/p'd, and it's akin to a page quote. The page also makes it clear that we do not claim ownership, links to the source are provided so it's effectively being cited, and people making the recs also tend to leave their own comments outside of that.

Besides, cross-referencing FF fics to see if the synopsis was copied would be a pain; ao3 fics have it displayed within the actual fic and on the master list, while FF only has it shown on the master list.

I think we need Word of Mod on this.

EDIT: We could always change them to say "to quote the official synopsis" so we don't have to ditch a bunch of recs or rewrite the synopses if it's an issue.

edited 22nd Apr '17 11:21:53 AM by Karxrida

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#88: Apr 22nd 2017 at 6:10:10 PM

I'd rather have it settled by consensus, but I don't think enough people visit this thread regularly to get that.

Sigh...paging ~Septimus Heap.

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#89: Apr 23rd 2017 at 1:29:53 AM

One or two sentences might be OK, but more than that is a no given copyright concerns.

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#90: Apr 23rd 2017 at 4:43:20 PM

Which brings right back around to needing more information on this. (I REALLY don't want to have to manually comb these pages, although it's likely someone will have to.)

Calling in ~crazysamaritan to come back and provide some additional info on what they were looking at.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#91: Apr 23rd 2017 at 5:09:00 PM

I was checking on AO 3 wicks, and noticed that several cases of Archive of Our Own works had the claim that the entire synopsis was lifted from the (edit) publication page itself. So checking the Related To tab will find the examples that concerned me. After seeing it several times, I started to get the impression that several more might be quoting without the attribution.

edited 24th Apr '17 4:22:42 AM by crazysamaritan

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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#92: Apr 23rd 2017 at 5:47:31 PM

First you said the problem was on the rec pages, and now you said it was on the work pages themselves, and in neither case you provided specific examples. Telling me to do investigative work that you've supposedly already done doesn't exactly put me in a good mood, you know.

I don't doubt both are correct - I've already found some copy-paste on the Naruto rec pages. I'd kind of like to know what the standard is supposed to be for the synopsis length on those pages, because copying one or two sentences may or may not work when that's the entire length of the synopsis.

As for specific fanfic pages themselves - well, I'm not going to comb through those wicks just yet, I don't have that much spare time. If you want them dealt with more quickly, you'll have to actually drop the names of specific pages.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#93: Apr 24th 2017 at 5:51:46 AM

Telling me to do investigative work that you've supposedly already done doesn't exactly put me in a good mood, you know.
Passive-aggressively sniping is more likely to make a person defensive than apologetic. I'm sorry for an incomplete report; I'm on mobile right now and during my last post. That was also when I went to bed.

From the Related To tab

That was an hour's research on mobile.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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#94: May 8th 2017 at 9:09:45 AM

Footnote Fever has some examples' text copypasted from Wikipedia (and openly says so at the bottom of the page). I've found one so far, but I don't have time to comb the page to check for others.

It's on the list.

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#95: May 21st 2017 at 9:22:30 AM

All the description's for playable characters on the Injustice 2 sheets are lifted directly from the Injustice 2 website. I'm going to try and fix some of them, but some help would be appreciated.

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#96: May 24th 2017 at 3:27:13 AM

While working on a general expansion of the Warhammer: Age of Sigmar Character page, I have noticed that a number of the recent edits (the past month or two) by the troper htd appear to have been copy/pasted from the Games Workshop website, something I believe they have got into trouble over previously. I will continue to rewrite them as and when I find them but I was wondering if the information being freely available was a mitigating factor for the copy/paste issue?

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#97: Jun 18th 2017 at 4:04:09 PM

Literature.Reaper and the other works of that guy, have their descriptions ripped from the Wordpress.

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#98: Jun 18th 2017 at 4:54:09 PM

~MaLady, you don't exactly look good yourself for making the Overwatch as a stub page without fleshing it out.

However, the troper Marrow looks far worse, since this led me to note that they had a long history of doing this with various online books (before dropping off the site completely in 2015, hence why I'm not paging them). They may also have edited under the name of exenseriors - they have the same basic style, despite the latter only having a handful of edits in 2016, centered on one of the books you're referring to.

Going to have to call in ~Septimus Heap here to confirm if these two are the same person, and if there might be other sockpuppet accounts doing the same thing. I'll start throwing up these pages on the list a little later, once I have time to look through his history more thoroughly (and finding out if there are any more edit histories to look through).

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#99: Jun 18th 2017 at 6:23:37 PM

Well, That Overwatch page would have been a blue link anyway, 'cause Overwatch is a thing that exists.

Else, I wouldn't have done anything other than having all of those pages link to each other, except for Red Overwatch, which would have clearly indicated that it was looking for info 'cause it would have been red.

But, I won't do the same for other pages in the same circumstances, then?

edited 18th Jun '17 6:24:14 PM by Malady

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#100: Jun 18th 2017 at 10:45:21 PM

No direct overlap between Marrow and the other troper, can't check easily indirect on this device.

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