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I'd say it probably depends on the individuals in question. There are card carrying villains who got an F in evil, after all, and can't manage to do anything more evil than a Poke the Poodle. Other times is a For the Evulz Moral Event Horizon crossing real horror show.
Same with Knight Templars. Some have gone so whacko beyond the bend there's no calling them back, and some still have standards or can hit a Heel Realization and try to change course.
edited 7th May '15 9:36:39 PM by TheWanderer
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I agree. Both have the potential to be equally heinous in action.
That being said. I actually have more respect for the Card-Carrying Villain. He at least has the guts to be honest with himself.
Knight Templars? Speak of Cao Cao, and he appears at the gates.
I'd rather the world betray me, but I won't betray the world.
Speaking of which, what would a Card-Carrying Villain and Knight Templar think of each other? As in a rivalry?
edited 2nd Jul '15 9:45:53 PM by superboy313
A Knight Templar would try to kill a Card-Carrying Villain.
Also, I have more respect for the Knight Templar. They also make better fictional villains Card Carrying Villains are pretty unrealistic and two dimensional, and rarely done well.
I'd rather the world betray me, but I won't betray the world.
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A good example would be the Imperium of Man vs. the Chaos Space Marines.
edited 2nd Jul '15 9:49:12 PM by Demetrios
I like to keep my audience riveted.
Well if you ask me, a Card-Carrying Villain would laugh at a Knight Templar, mocking him/her for his delusions, while a Knight Templar would be dumbfounded by how the former admits to being evil.
Also, can anyone imagine a particularly cruel and malicious Card-Carrying Villain in a setting where almost every other villain is a Knight Templar or Well-Intentioned Extremist?
edited 2nd Jul '15 11:42:54 PM by superboy313
And in all honesty, while a Knight Templar can make for a genuinely complex and tragic/monstrous individual, that doesn't mean you can just slack off and expect them to be automatically good. *cough* Unalaq *cough*
Would that it were so simple.
Card-Carrying Villain: I'm evil! Obey me or die!
Knight Templar: I'm good! Obey me or die!
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
We know both these tropes. The villain who knows s/he's bad and proud of it and the villain who views him/herself as the hero.
Which of these two villain types in your opinion can be potentially more heinous? And what would a rivalry between them be like?
edited 26th May '15 12:17:18 PM by superboy313