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harryhenry It's either real or it's a dream Since: Jan, 2012
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#1: Oct 4th 2014 at 7:18:38 PM

As suggested here (It's at the top by kyun), why not have a image on the page (Like The Renaissance Ageof Animation page) that's a compilation image of noteworthy animated films and shows?

edited 4th Oct '14 7:19:00 PM by harryhenry

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#2: Oct 4th 2014 at 8:58:47 PM

Sounds like a plan to me, but it's too late in the evening for me to start hunting for ideas.

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#6: Oct 12th 2014 at 10:21:12 PM

It's ok, but I would prefer mixing it up a little. Now all the images on the left are 3D computer-animated movies and the ones on the right are 2D series. 5 of 6 are also American.

We could replace two of the left images with something like The Curse of the Were-Rabbit(British and stop motion animated) and Howl's Moving Castle(Japanese 2D). Then we could replace one of the right images with an 3d computer-animated series.

Edit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit was coproduced by Aardman Animations and DreamWorks Animation. So that would replace the How to Train Your Dragon image.(We don't need two from DreamWorks Animation.)

edited 13th Oct '14 2:53:21 AM by m8e

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#7: Oct 13th 2014 at 1:11:58 AM

[up]Good suggestions, though I'd probably put Spirited Away instead of Howl's Moving Castle.

edited 13th Oct '14 1:12:33 AM by harryhenry

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#10: Oct 13th 2014 at 6:33:50 AM

Do we need an anime image in there when this is written so western centric that it only has a few lines on anime dubbing but other than that this has nothing to do with anime?

edited 13th Oct '14 6:41:44 AM by Memers

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#11: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:24:02 AM

Not to mention that I think there are other shows (like Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann or Kill La Kill) that are more representative of the medium anyway). I'd personally swap out the Haruhi image for one of those. I'd also personally swap out the Clone Wars image for something else. Maybe a pony image; give how popular the show is, it would make sense to include it in an image that supposed to be representative of the era, especially if we want an example of Flash Animation. I'd also like to have Wakfu in there somewhere, but that's just me.

TL:DR I'd oust the Haruhi and Clone Wars sections for something else.

edited 13th Oct '14 7:26:30 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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#12: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:30:24 AM

[up] Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann or Kill La Kill more popular than Haruhi? I think you under estimate its following especially back before S2 aired, it was freaky.

But if you are looking for the highest selling Anime since 2000 Gundam Seed and Love Live have been the only ones to sell over 100k for volume 1 alone, those two are the two truly popular shows since 2000. Anime fans seem to have a strange obsession with those two shows, Fujoshi with the former and Otaku for the latter.

edited 13th Oct '14 7:31:08 AM by Memers

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#13: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:31:59 AM

I never said more popular, I said that it's more representative of the medium; i.e. it makes for a more interesting picture than somebody's face.

And believe me, I was around when Haruhi was popular. eaugh.

edited 13th Oct '14 7:32:23 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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#14: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:36:10 AM

With Spirited Away in the mix, I'd be fine with ditching the Haruhi panel...although that panel seems a little grainy to my eye. I had debated using a Clone Wars pic but decided to go with Twilight Sparkle since the Ponies arguably had a bigger impact than Clone Wars.

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#15: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:38:11 AM

[up][up]Still they are not representative of the medium, if anything they are the opposite of that, Trigger and Gainex are just too unique.

Both Seed and Love Live however are highly representative SEED covers the the hot guys in Mecha boom that continues to this day and Love Live covers Idols which have been taking over for years now now up to 10+ shows year and illustrates the ongoing war between Fujoshi and Otaku.

But even then this page does not cover any of that. /shrug.

edited 13th Oct '14 7:43:49 AM by Memers

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#16: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:45:16 AM

When coming up with the original image, my thought process was "One Disney, one Pixar, one [extremely popular/notable anime], one or two [extremely popular/notable Western cartoon], one [Western animated film not from the other companies]", which is how I came to the original format. I almost went with the Venture Bros. instead of Twilight to give a contrast of more adult-oriented fare vs. Spongebob.

[up] To be frank, I've never seen SEED nor heard of that other title you mentioned...I think going with something from Miyazaki would be a safer bet than either of those. I actually debated using Spirited Away instead of Haruhi but figured Haruhi would be more recognizable.

edited 13th Oct '14 7:47:15 AM by Willbyr

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#17: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:47:43 AM

Let's not have a popularity war. Haruhi and Clone Wars are fine.

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#18: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:49:08 AM

The ponies have only really had a big impact on the Internet, plus as of late the entire series carries oodles of Internet Backdraft. I'd rather just have Clone Wars. And they did ask for a CGI image on the right column.

edited 13th Oct '14 7:50:27 AM by WackyPancake

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#19: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:49:38 AM

[up][up][up]They are literally the two highest selling Animes since 2000 which why I suggested it, one from 2003 and one from 2012, both sold and got copied endlessly. Trigger is just too different. Haruhi did lead the Light Novel anime boom though so I guess I am fine with that.

But again, why do we even need an anime image? The article does not actually cover anything anime really.

edited 13th Oct '14 8:27:42 AM by Memers

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#20: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:52:17 AM

There are anime titles on the works list, including Spirited Away.

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#21: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:56:23 AM

[up] And yet all but Ghibli films have seemingly been shoved off onto Anime of the 2000s and Anime of the 2010s.

We should probably cover Anime there and not here which is completely western centric.

edited 13th Oct '14 7:58:28 AM by Memers

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#22: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:57:08 AM

I think this may be more an issue of the page than the image.

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#23: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:59:34 AM

@Willbyr: Venture Bros. would also work.

My personal breakdown would be something like:

  • One Disney/Pixar (having both feels kinda redundant given Pixar is a Disney company now)
  • One Non-Disney CGI movie
  • One Traditionally animated movie (non-Disney)
  • One anime series/movie
  • Two western animated TV shows, preferably of different styles.

I'm okay with Clone Wars being included, but I would rather swap out the Haruhi image. I think the Spirited Away section covers anime sufficiently.

edited 13th Oct '14 8:02:44 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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#24: Oct 13th 2014 at 8:01:22 AM

The Dark Age Of Animation mentions a few anime titles that were starting to make headway into the US in the 80s, and The Renaissance Age Of Animation has a pic from Evangelion in its collage, so it makes sense to incorporate an anime in The Millennium Age Of Animation.

edited 13th Oct '14 8:03:17 AM by Willbyr

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#25: Oct 13th 2014 at 8:01:37 AM

[up][up][up] I agree with that, A TRS to include more of a anime perspective thant just dubbing or split it off into a direct writeup in Anime of the 2000s would work.

Well anyway Haruhi did lead the Light Novel anime boom though so I guess I am fine with using that. Just not Trigger stuff, which are good mind you, but not representative of anime as a whole.

edited 13th Oct '14 8:03:42 AM by Memers


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