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Manaic Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#10226: Aug 30th 2015 at 2:35:57 PM

yea, that would make recon better, but I doubt it'd give enough advantage to be broken.

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#10227: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:08:06 PM

I have zero doubt that a dedicated, communicative Recon overwatch would not give their team a clear advantage over a full team without one in all circumstances. It's a tool, but I cannot see it being overpowering in all situations.

Even besides how potent the balance is tilted by just one player being off the field in a 4 vs. 4 fight, you have to keep in mind that there are more ways to play spotter than just verbally, and there's more ways to cooperate than just communicating. At least, again, verbally.

Makes me wonder again about something I've been curious on... if Recon shared its information with the rest of the team. It only highlights enemies' positions on the Game Pad rather than showing them on the screen like the Point Sensor and Echolocator, so I'm not sure how strong that would be... It could definitely be too strong, even if it was made temporary regardless of how long the Recon player stays on the respawn point... But I dunno. As it is, I really like it, but it's hard for me to justify using it over a stat boost or Haunt.

edited 30th Aug '15 3:11:30 PM by RegisteredUser

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NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#10229: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:11:50 PM

Hey, have you guys ever noticed you can see what positions your enemy team is at on the map after they kill you even though you don't have the Recon ability?

But it's completely inconsistent. Like sometimes you can and sometimes you can't. And I have no clue what triggers your ability to see where they are.

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#10230: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:13:45 PM

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#10231: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:17:28 PM

Yup, you can paint the enemy on the map by... well... painting them, be it by your team's fire or by them stepping into your ink.

edited 30th Aug '15 3:18:00 PM by Elbruno

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#10232: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:33:48 PM

I think the main issue is the communication. The person with the recon ability will need to be able to articulate where on the map the enemies are. Likewise, the teammates will need to understand what the recon-er is saying. Try to imagine describing a part of a map to someone. Some areas might be easier to describe than others. The tower in Blackbelly, the center boxes in Walleye, the bush in the corners of Kelp Dome, etc. are likely to be understood. But what about unusual areas that aren't as iconic? How well can a team deal with that? If the team can pull it off, then I can see how useful having recon can be.

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#10233: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:36:07 PM

That's actually be really easy with a coordinated team. Just have the map your point of reference and give out clock directions. Twelve o'clock is up on the map, six o'clock is down on the map and so on.

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NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#10234: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:37:36 PM

Plus you can section off the areas as Section A, B, etc...

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#10235: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:41:32 PM

That's probably better. Your teammates don't need to know the exact coords of the enemy players. They just need the general locations. From there each player can narrow out where everyone is.

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#10236: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:01:49 PM

What would be the worst weapon combination imaginable? I don't know about primary weapons (despite my loathing of the brushes), but I can say that Point Sensor Bomb Rush would be hilariously useless (why not just use an Echolator?).

edited 30th Aug '15 4:02:10 PM by RainingMetal

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#10237: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:07:57 PM

Oh man imagine Disruptor Bomb Rush

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#10238: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:08:56 PM

With stackable effect!

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#10240: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:40:15 PM

I dunno, I think Point Sensor with Echolocator could actually be okay. Especially given that Echolocator is one of the slower-charging specials now, and how it's still arguably the best emergency reload special. Not as immediately useful as other sub/special pairings, but not entirely awful.

Point Sensor and Bomb Rush, though :P

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#10241: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:59:18 PM

Blarg, I'm 3/1 for Splatfests now. I really didn't expect the margin to be that wide. I blame Optimus Prime for getting his ass splatted every time he appears.

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#10242: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:00:15 PM

Yeah, 1/1 on Splatfests now, myself.

It's been fun.
NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#10243: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:00:24 PM

OPTIMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS!

"Shut up, Shia."

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10244: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:03:07 PM

See, now if it had been "Team Transformer" vs. "Team Shia" we would've had some fun.

Ah well, I got 18 sea snails, and my total is over 60. And I think I have like 970K at this point, so I'm good.

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#10245: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:05:23 PM

Only one person would be on Team Shia...and he'd be like "the dude with no life" from the World of Warcraft episode of South Park.

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#10246: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:16:31 PM

DO IT!

JUST DO IT!

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DO IT!

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#10247: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:23:04 PM

Please tell me you guys aren't able to play online right now. I've been trying to connect to a game for the last 15 minutes with no fucking progress.

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#10248: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:25:56 PM

I tried for a while but I had a message pop up about connection issues or something.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#10249: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:26:42 PM

So after putting much thought into it Read: Had a bit of an awful streak in Turf War I went ahead and jumped to a couple of S rank matches.

First off, HOLY SHIT.

Secondly, I lost those two matches in Blackbelly Splat Zones, ending as my team's LVP and MVP respectively. Turns out that, at least when only S ranks are involved, each defeat only costs you 4 points. Thank goodness for Anti-Frustration Features.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10250: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:21:19 PM

I'll be surprised if I ever manage to make S rank. I've been pretty much stuck at A.

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