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ginsengaddict Not a Fragile Flower from atop Olympus Mons in a Hero Pose Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Not a Fragile Flower
#1: Mar 12th 2014 at 4:24:11 PM

Hello. New trope, needs an image.

Trope: Letting someone in mortal peril perish.

Options:

Any other suggestions?

edited 12th Mar '14 4:25:48 PM by ginsengaddict

"Get me a gun, I'm a soldier; but put me in that suit and I'm a superhero." - Gunnery Sgt Roberta "Bobbie" Draper MMC
ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#2: Mar 12th 2014 at 4:29:29 PM

First is watermarked, second is incredibly vague, and third, ignoring that it's a joke suggestion, is a great example but terrible image.

Something like the first could probably work, although I'm concerned about overlap with Apathetic Citizens.

Moon
ginsengaddict Not a Fragile Flower from atop Olympus Mons in a Hero Pose Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Not a Fragile Flower
#3: Mar 12th 2014 at 4:36:30 PM

Agreed on all counts. The second one is actually from a UK news story about a man dying on the ground while people just walked past him for two whole hours.

Couldn't find a non-watermarked version of the first image, or any other illustrations that represented the trope that well. Hoping it'll spark some inspiration here though.

On a semi-related note, the trope has a No Real Life Examples tag, but that should probably change, considering just how often in happens (off the top of my head, a woman who died in the US while in police custody and a man in China who collapsed in the middle of the road and nearly go run over several times while pedestrians just walked right past him).

"Get me a gun, I'm a soldier; but put me in that suit and I'm a superhero." - Gunnery Sgt Roberta "Bobbie" Draper MMC
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#4: Mar 12th 2014 at 5:13:57 PM

No, the fact that it happens a lot in Real Life doesn't mean that the NRLEP tag should be removed. On the contrary, it is a good reason for the tag to stay, since otherwise the Real Life section is highly likely to become a bloated pointless listing of all sorts of times this happened, or is thought to have happened, or might have happened, or could have been what happened.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
ginsengaddict Not a Fragile Flower from atop Olympus Mons in a Hero Pose Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Not a Fragile Flower
#5: Mar 12th 2014 at 5:48:32 PM

Fair point. So about the image?

"Get me a gun, I'm a soldier; but put me in that suit and I'm a superhero." - Gunnery Sgt Roberta "Bobbie" Draper MMC
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#6: Mar 12th 2014 at 6:24:36 PM

I'm not happy with any of the suggestions, and don't have a suggestion of my own to make. I'll do some looking around later.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#7: Mar 12th 2014 at 7:39:20 PM

I agree with everyone else. Not to be harsh, but all these suggestions, well, suck. And please use CamelCase when imputing the article name.

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Lakija Lakija from Chicago Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Lakija
#8: Mar 15th 2014 at 10:00:10 PM

I've been turning over the idea in my mind for a while. But I could possibly maybe illustrate an image to show this trope. I don't know if that kind of thing is considered or allowed. But I can't find a clear image or one of good quality.

It is what it is.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9: Mar 16th 2014 at 2:59:52 AM

Sorry, ginseng, but I have to agree that the top post options aren't that good.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#10: Mar 16th 2014 at 8:51:22 AM

[up][up] Feel free to make an image for anything being discussed.

ginsengaddict Not a Fragile Flower from atop Olympus Mons in a Hero Pose Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Not a Fragile Flower
#11: Mar 16th 2014 at 11:44:26 PM

Not a problem, Septimus - I wasn't expecting any of them to get used - like everyone who has looked, I couldn't find anything decent. The suggestions are there for inspiration more than anything else.

"Get me a gun, I'm a soldier; but put me in that suit and I'm a superhero." - Gunnery Sgt Roberta "Bobbie" Draper MMC
Lakija Lakija from Chicago Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Lakija
#12: Mar 16th 2014 at 11:49:22 PM

Okay. I sketched this up, and I'm not quite done with the coloring and text. However, here is some progress anyway.

What do you all think? Shall I continue with this idea? Am I on the right track?

Or do you guys have a a better concept? I'm all ears!

Dialogue is real small: It says:

Man: Help me! Honey! It's suffocating me to death!

Woman: Remember how you said I better make you a damn sandwich? Now's the perfect time for me to go do that.

edited 16th Mar '14 11:52:13 PM by Lakija

It is what it is.
ginsengaddict Not a Fragile Flower from atop Olympus Mons in a Hero Pose Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Not a Fragile Flower
#13: Mar 17th 2014 at 1:34:42 AM

I like it.

I like it a lot.

Suggestion: I think the victim's line could be cut entirely and the visual alone would be enough to establish his situation - whereas the perpetrator would simply need to say "Hmm, I think I'll go make you that sandwich now." or something more coy and subtle than what she's currently saying to make her intentions clear without pushing the point Up To 11.

Other than that, keep it up!

"Get me a gun, I'm a soldier; but put me in that suit and I'm a superhero." - Gunnery Sgt Roberta "Bobbie" Draper MMC
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Lakija Lakija from Chicago Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Lakija
#15: Mar 17th 2014 at 10:46:30 AM

[up][up] Oh I like that idea. I will make the dialogue change for sure.

[up] Thanks! I think when I finish this one, I'll do another hard to illustrate trope. God knows I need to creative outlet.

It is what it is.
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#16: Mar 17th 2014 at 10:54:35 AM

I like the concept a lot. [tup] The dialogue should be easy to read, though. The one here seems too small for me. Other than that, I think it's very good.

Lakija Lakija from Chicago Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Lakija
#17: Mar 17th 2014 at 11:39:45 AM

[up]I'll clean up my handwriting a bit and make it bigger after I crop the image. If that doesn't look good though I'll go ahead and use a font instead.

It is what it is.
ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#18: Mar 17th 2014 at 11:54:36 AM

Nitpicking, but I'd probably also change the man's dialog to something like "H... help... can't... breathe..."

Being able to talk at length while being suffocated strikes me as a little odd, is all.

Moon
Lakija Lakija from Chicago Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Lakija
#19: Mar 17th 2014 at 5:43:19 PM

[up]I was going for 50s Cheese. :D

I'm going to cut down the dialogue and let the image do the talking.

While I'm here, I was thinking about doing a vector version or this. Any opinions on the matter?

Stay tuned guys.

It is what it is.
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#20: Mar 17th 2014 at 5:57:52 PM

Vector art would almost certainly look better for an illustration in this context.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Lakija Lakija from Chicago Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Lakija
#21: Mar 17th 2014 at 9:25:34 PM

[up] Good. I'll switch over then.

It is what it is.
Lakija Lakija from Chicago Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Lakija
#22: Mar 19th 2014 at 7:03:23 PM

Okay. How about this?

edited 19th Mar '14 7:03:42 PM by Lakija

It is what it is.
Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#23: Mar 19th 2014 at 7:17:56 PM

[up] Nice color. Just one complaint: the text is hard to read. It's a combination of the size and style.

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Lakija Lakija from Chicago Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Lakija
#24: Mar 19th 2014 at 7:55:46 PM

What about this typeface?

edited 19th Mar '14 8:17:08 PM by Lakija

It is what it is.
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#25: Mar 19th 2014 at 8:05:48 PM

To nitpick: (1) I might put quotation marks around "damn sandwich", especially if it's supposed to imply she is repeating something he said. (2) The type gets a little close to the art now, maybe move it upward. (3) It is clear without the hyphen (or any other graphic indication) that the woman is speaking. (4) The use of drop-shadow is inconsistent, for example on the woman her dress (and only her dress) has it; is that intentional?

It's fine as-is, though.

edited 20th Mar '14 2:11:00 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

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