No, the other one.
Scanned the page quickly, and it certainly has a severe case of Zero Context Example. Much more than gushing, I think.
Not sure if it merely requires cleanup, or if it's an indication of a weak trope definition.
edited 2nd Mar '14 5:46:01 PM by AnotherDuck
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From looking at the page, the entire anime section is ZC Es.
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I can see only one example that does not instantly fail the ZCE rule in the anime section.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Other sections seem to have a better ratio of actual examples, but for anime it's just terrible. It is in severe need of a clean up though.
Spoke too soon. Real Life is just a list of people. The whole page needs cleanup severely.
edited 3rd Mar '14 9:51:51 AM by shimaspawn
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Cleaned up the wiki page.
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On a side note, I think there should be a prohibition on putting folder end tags in the same lines as examples, since commenting such a line out when it's the bottom folder breaks the page. (Which is what happened on that page cleanup; I fixed it.)
edited 6th Mar '14 3:36:18 PM by TotemicHero
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Agreed...actually, I don't think I've seen a page where that was the case.
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I'll use the Wiki Sandbox to demonstrate that glitch. (It's not hard to fix.)
Edit: And done.
edited 6th Mar '14 4:03:25 PM by TotemicHero
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To give an example that does not involve Badass Baritone (which I did not intend to be the subject of this thread), see the Big Brother Instinct example on Characters.Kurokami: "Additional awesomeness being voiced by both Katsuyuki Konishi in Japanese AND Crispin Freeman in English." I edited only the namespaces here, but is there any reason why sentences like this should be allowed in examples of character tropes?
While I've been shifting wicks for voice actors, I frequently come across examples written like this:
To be sure, Badass Baritone is more prone to this than most other tropes, but it's hardly the only trope where tropers list actors/voice actors as if everyone was supposed to know what characterization that implies.
While examples of the type could be treated under the Zero Context Example rule, I would argue that sentences that just gush about how much the actor adds to the role shouldn't even be included in examples of characterization tropes (rather than casting tropes or Audience Reactions). Do other tropers have opinions on this?