Heroes Reborn (2015)

Jack Coleman is returning as Noah Bennett.

Should have died in Season 2, but eh, he was one of the better characters.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s1/heroes/news/a579640/heroes-reborn-milo-ventimiglia-wont-return-as-peter-petrelli.html#~oIr9jfMb6NuK6E

...Darn. And he was my second favorite character.

Eh. I like him but I don't see where his character would go if they put back him. He had the lion share of the original series so I'm okay with him being left alone.

Who's your first favourite btw?

He was an annoying twit who was married to the Hero Ball. Unfortunately my two favorites aren't likely to appear because their actors have gone on to other things

edited 27th Jun '14 6:00:45 PM by tricksterson

My favorites, in order, are Sylar, Peter, and Matt. So.... Likely none of them are coming back. I also heard that Hayden Panettiere isn't coming back. How the hell can you have HRG and no Claire?

I'm saying this as someone who isn't a fan of Claire (she, imho, was whinier than Peter and had everything handed to her yet still wouldn't stop complaining.).

An annoying twit? More importantly the only guy who acted heroic from the start. If you ignore Volume 2, Peter Petrelli was cool.

My favorites were Mika's father from Volume 1, Niki (in Volume 1), Nathan Petrelli (because of his character arc in Volume 2), Mohinder (because the show wouldn't be Heroes without him or his narrations), and HRG.

In order of awesomeness, I'd say:

• HRG (his actions to save his family)
• Mohinder (his efforts to save other people, at least until Volume 3 where his character spirals downward)
• Nathan (his first major flight scene was the first, stunning moment in Heroes for me, and was where I started getting invested)
• Mika's father (at least until he got killed off)
• Niki (who showed the negative side of having powers, an interesting Anti-Hero in Volume 1 before they axed her)

Oh, and hell, how can I forget Ando?

I like him more than Hiro, because while Hiro was sort of the "mirror" to any viewer familiar with comic books, he was a dork, and his exposition was, "For some reason I want to manipulate time and space - oh crap i actually did it - i am a superhero and must save the world!"

But ANDO - that guy was great. His friendship with Hiro made him more likable than Hiro for me, especially in Volume 4.

Mind, I like how cheerful Hiro was, and I like his portion of the plot, but his inability to resolve anything short of trapping Adam temporarily bother me in retrospect.

edited 27th Jun '14 8:13:33 PM by FOFD

"An annoying twit? More importantly the only guy who acted heroic from the start"

Same thing

I like Peter and Hiro the most, because they were the most heroic.

Peter may have wanted to be a hero, but he was almost unimaginably terrible at it. Give me Hiro or Noah any day.

That. He's a good guy, but good lord, he's an idiot and his powers were so game-break-y that the show became absolutely stupid.

Toward Volume 2, and 3 when the time-travel plot starts.

Hiro's the one who could probably fix everything in two minutes if he wanted to, when in fact, he's the reason for most of the events that took place.

I think Peter's power should have gotten the nerf from the start of Season Two.

Yeah, a LOT of what Hiro did was cause a billion extra problems due to his own stupidity. Peter and Hiro were both stupid at points, but I liked Peter because he wasn't afraid to sacrifice himself and he really did do stuff for the greater good, like using super strength/speed to save people as a paramedic. I do agree that he was too ppwerful and game-breaky at first but he was my favorite real hero of the bunch.

As much as I might bash Hiro (especially during Seasons 3-4), I do like him, the dynamic between him and Ando. My favorite scene is when Ando comes back for him in Volume 1, and one of my favorite plot points is how Ando's death affects him.

I even like the irony of how Hiro creates his own archnemesis. I like how the theories behind why that plot arc began (Hiro thinking of his hero, thinking of someone brave, in order to confront Sylar).

I just have to note, however, that his ability to bend space and time is absolutely game-breaking and was, IIRC, the reason for all of the crap that happened.

He didn't even have to stay in Japan, but he did, before even meeting the girl he fell in love with. Maybe they should've had a better reason for him to stay there, like maybe the shock from thinking he killed his childhood hero and realizing that going back to the future would result in an altered timeline - so he'd stay, prior to realizing what Adam was/was capable of. Regardless, the reveal of Adam/Takashi was good.

Hiro's great during Volumes 1, 2, and 5 - at least in my book. The two Memory Gambit s though... those were just abusive. The first time he was, what, rendered into a twelve-year old? And the second time he could only speak/think in comic book and movie references? Ugh.

edited 11th Jul '14 8:01:10 PM by FOFD

You think molly might make a return to the show? She'll be all grown up now.

Are they serious? They can't seriously be trying to bring this back, can they? I mean, why bother? It went horribly downhill with characters that also went downhill where all the good and/or interesting ones were either killed or written into characterization oblivion.

It's actually extremely depressing, because I loved Hiro and Ando together, and I thought Matt and Mohinder were cool once upon a time.

I don't know if it was the strike or what but at some point the magic was gone and trying to return to it is a fool's errand.

It's bad enough that the show's redeeming qualities are limited to Season 1 and the final season without trying to return hope into the hearts of the naïve.

I mean seriously, who asked for this? I thought the world grew beyond and past this show. I thought we were allowed to move on.

It ended on a cliffhanger. I'm happy there'll be some manner of resolution.

Seasons 2, 3, and 4 each had interesting ideas that went nowhere, and some bizarre decisions.

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Season 2 paralleled the adventures of the protagonists with the adventures of an unwitting antagonist, introduced Hiro's arch-nemesis, took a villain and made him a hero, and made a hero into a villain - twice. Then they tried to force Sylar back into the plot.

Season 3 introduced someone who could topple Peter in the Superpower Lottery, but killed off Adam and Maury and others people, and forced Claire into the plot with her having some MacGuffin inside her. There was also the bullshit redemption for Sylar - which immediately reversed itself. The aversion of one Bad Future leading to the creation of an even worse future was interesting, except for the sheer implausibility of the events shown, like Peter running away when he can bend space and time, shooting Nathan when he can bend space and time, getting shot in the back when he can bend space in time, standing out in the open in a world where he's public enemy number one - when he can BEND THE FABRIC OF SPACE AND TIME.

Ah, and f'ck Mohinder for going Stupid Evil and injecting himself with unstable super power serum, after all his motivation to avenge his father and to protect people with powers.

High point, though, was the concept of adding in a "villain team", who were mostly forgettable bad guys who were killed off as soon as possible. I really liked watching Sylar fight the wannabe villains, though. And Peter becoming Sylar? Oh the irony.

Season/Volume 4 tried to flip Nathan back onto the villainous spectrum. Bringing the heroes together as they went on the run from the government could've been interesting, but I don't even remember how the situation was resolved. HRG really should have died back in Season 2. Sylar fops around looking for his origins, and while he's certainly a Magnificent Bastard, he's really overstayed his welcome by this point. And then we have that lame fight scene at the end.

Worst point was waiting for Angela Petrelli to "give the heroes answers" and ultimately do nothing of importance.

Volume 5 just picked the wrong antagonist. Sylar loses his memory, Hiro gets mind-raped again, the carnival plot was passe. If they'd switched this season's conflict with the conflicts of Volumes 2 or 3, it would've fit better. The way it is now: Volume 1 is about discovery and averting a Bad Future, Volume 2 involves heroes becoming villains, Volume 3 involves villains coming together, Volume 4 has heroes hunted down by the government, and Volume 5 is about heroes getting inducted into, taken hostage by, and otherwise harassed by a group of carnies.

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It could use a better conclusion.

Tentatively excited. Hopefully they don't screw this up. The first season was pretty good, ignored the series afterwords (just like Kyle XY...god Matt Dallas is hot).

I need closure. I need to know what happened after the end of V5. And with barely anyone returning, I have a feeling I won't get it.

With so little of the cast returning it does seem 'why bother?'

... at this point, I think that's a point in its favor for most people. The cast grew... pretty unlikable by the end.

Peter, HRG, and Matt were still quite likable.

Gonna have to disagree about Peter, HRG is coming back, and I do agree about Matt.

There're still likeable , they were ended up being written by idiots.