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Deadlock Clock: Feb 19th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#1: Jan 10th 2014 at 12:06:45 PM

Name really should be different, because it's is way too specific to the trope, and a case of Trope Namer Syndroms. And that has affected the description, like the writer was doing a Trope Co piece, and not a serious trope. I don't see any part of it that doesn't seem to apply only to the Trope Namer, and not to the rest of the examples.

edited 10th Jan '14 12:08:23 PM by spacemarine50

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#2: Jan 10th 2014 at 1:07:36 PM

Seems like this is trying to be Giant Screen.

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#3: Jan 10th 2014 at 1:35:04 PM

Also thinking this can apply to giant-screen T Vs that are meant for the maybe-average house.

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#4: Jan 10th 2014 at 4:20:10 PM

^ No, please. That's the kind of overly-broad definition that leads to example lists full of "<this work> has a big-screen TV in somewhere".

An individual with a larger-than-normal or larger-than-plausible TV in their home says something about that character, and could well be an example of Conspicuous Consumption or another trope related to affluence. But it does not carry the same information about the world as giant jumbo-tron-like screens on the sides of buildings does.

Remember, a trope is not simply "this happens"; it's "Because this happens the audience receives additional information about some part of the work."

edited 10th Jan '14 4:20:57 PM by Madrugada

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#5: Jan 10th 2014 at 5:02:45 PM

I think the name implies it's the TV screen of a specific character, rather than a company, which many examples are about. What is and isn't included in the trope?

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#6: Jan 10th 2014 at 5:24:41 PM

The name is simply bad. It's a direct lift of a Weird Al lyric, and is actively misleading when compared to the trope definition. According to the trope page it's about the giant tv screens on the sides of buildings, often found in hi-tech dystopias. Not "any really big TV screen".

This is really little more than a giant television, usually on the side of a building. There's one in Times Square in New York, at least one in Tokyo, and often their slightly smaller cousins are present in Elaborate Underground Bases. Jumbotrons are a close, but comparatively tiny, relative.

Often used for advertising in the sort of Dystopian future that has a lot of Corrupt Corporate Executives in it. In a particularly bad one, it could also be used so that Big Brother Is Watching You.

edited 10th Jan '14 5:43:00 PM by Madrugada

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#7: Jan 10th 2014 at 5:32:10 PM

I'm pretty sure the real term for these things are Jumbotrons.

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#8: Jan 10th 2014 at 5:41:02 PM

Jumbotron is a brand name. The official name is "Large-screen LED outdoor display"

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#9: Jan 10th 2014 at 5:58:58 PM

[up]Wikipedia says that it's become a genericized trademark; I've never heard them called anything else. In any case, it's infinitely less obscure than Frank's 2000 Inch TV.

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#10: Jan 10th 2014 at 6:58:40 PM

Jumbotrons are more evocative of outdoor stadiums, not personal homes. There'd have to be more to it if you're going to use it. (Anyway, the word itself is okay; we already use it in a trope name.)

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#11: Jan 10th 2014 at 9:19:48 PM

Hmmm... something like Futuristic Giant Screen(s) work as title (or at least as an alt title) or does it sound too clunky?

edited 10th Jan '14 9:20:10 PM by MacronNotes

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#13: Jan 11th 2014 at 1:08:23 AM

[up] That still implies outdoor stadium screen, not home use screen.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#14: Jan 11th 2014 at 1:51:55 AM

Isn't this trope specifically about giant screens outdoors? The thing about giant in-home screens isn't even mentioned in the description and is pretty specific about them being in public spaces. The name derives from a song I never even heard before but given the small lyric quote it's not even that relevant to the trope anyway.

edited 11th Jan '14 1:55:42 AM by treelo

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#15: Jan 11th 2014 at 3:30:35 AM

Ah, sorry; I was looking at post 4 and thinking that stuff was part of the definition already.

Like I always say, read the trope, eh?

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#17: Jan 13th 2014 at 8:05:38 PM

Apparently it did go through YKTTW, but somehow the YKTTW didn't get transferred to the page and there seems to be a hole in the Internet Archive for certain wiki pages for much of 2009, so good luck finding it. The name makes sense if you're familiar with the song and/or can figure out that a 2000 inch TV would not actually fit in or even on the average house, but it's still incredible that a name implying one sort of big screen got applied to a trope meaning another.

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