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WhatArtThee Since: Oct, 2015
#126: Jan 28th 2016 at 9:00:52 AM

But how do we know it's trying to get past the censors? The only confirmation we can get is Word of God, but that's not really for that many examples.

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#127: Jan 28th 2016 at 9:08:38 AM

That is the key problem, isn't it? Word of God lurks in many places, but absent it we can only rely on what we would expect censors to stop given the rating and audience of the show in question. I don't see concentration camps as being something that inherently fall into the "sex parts, swearing, and bloody violence" rubric that is used to judge kids' shows, as long as you don't actually show people being gassed and starved and whatnot.

Maybe we need to separate this concept into "things that the writers deliberately slipped past the censors, with Word of God to back it up" and "things that passed the censors but that make parents uncomfortable having their kids watch".

edited 28th Jan '16 9:10:23 AM by Fighteer

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#128: Jan 28th 2016 at 9:12:14 AM

I see what you mean, However, I'm pretty sure it would raise more than a few eyebrows...

I'm not for splitting it, however, as I don't think such a split is really necessary.

edited 28th Jan '16 9:22:38 AM by WhatArtThee

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#129: Jan 28th 2016 at 9:18:31 AM

Of course, but that doesn't mean that a censor reviewing it for publication should necessarily have cut it or banned the entire episode. We have become far too broad in our imagining of what should be considered unsafe for kids to watch.

edited 28th Jan '16 9:18:46 AM by Fighteer

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#130: Jan 28th 2016 at 9:32:08 AM

Yes, but how many kids shows have concentration camps?

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#132: Jan 28th 2016 at 12:02:39 PM

Incidentally, I added the qualifying criteria to the main Getting Crap Past the Radar article, as the description could easily be misread.

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#133: Jan 28th 2016 at 1:36:59 PM

(On second thought, reread and changed my mind.)

edited 28th Jan '16 1:42:09 PM by Nohbody

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#135: May 1st 2016 at 6:33:27 PM

The Bible has an entry of Getting Crap Past the Radar, which mentions that how a sacred book has an erotic poem. If I remember well, the crosswick also mentions the weird tackling of sex in that book. I feel it is not a real example.

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#136: May 1st 2016 at 6:35:43 PM

Radar.Fire Emblem Fates doesn't seem to have any valid examples, just a bunch of Parental Bonus or innuendo.

edited 1st May '16 6:36:10 PM by Karxrida

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#137: May 1st 2016 at 6:57:51 PM

[up][up]I'm pretty sure there's no radar to speak of there.

[up]Is there anything at all that would actually be caught by the radar at whatever level it's supposed to be at?

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#138: May 1st 2016 at 7:13:32 PM

I don't think so, as the game is rated T. While there are a lot of references to sex, but they are all indirect and vague enough that they will go over a kid's head and the game can't be rated M over them.

(Hell, I didn't catch quite a few when playing the game myself.)

edited 1st May '16 7:20:07 PM by Karxrida

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#139: May 1st 2016 at 7:26:22 PM

[up][up]I'm not entirely certain about that - while the Bible doesn't have a radar, individual translations like the King James Version might. But I'm not sure it's a can of worms we want to open either.

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#140: May 1st 2016 at 7:33:12 PM

[up][up]Then it sounds deletable. The trope isn't "innuendo".

[up]Is the example written specifically for versions with a radar? Considering what kind of book it is, it really needs to be stated that it is censored, since the expectation is that we get to read a new-langauge version of the original.

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#142: May 2nd 2016 at 8:17:30 AM

The original version of The Bible has no radar, full stop.

Translations or remakes which had to be published in places with radars can have examples. But they need to emphasize how they tripped a radar and which version it is. Not just a general "Bible" example.

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#143: May 2nd 2016 at 12:02:56 PM

Just cut out a bit from the Dragon Tales radar page, which listed the use of "stupid", "dumb", and "hate" as "Adult jokes in kids shows"!

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#144: May 2nd 2016 at 12:17:34 PM

edited 20th Jan '18 4:17:10 AM by YasminPerry

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#145: May 3rd 2016 at 7:05:24 AM

So a while ago, I cleaned the Western Animation pages, that is now done, and I will now move on to cleaning the Film pages.

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#146: May 5th 2016 at 4:05:31 PM

Now on to Live Action TV.

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#147: May 13th 2016 at 12:37:53 PM

Can we delete the radar pages for adult works? This is about mature content in kids media.

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#148: May 13th 2016 at 1:52:49 PM

If by "adult" you mean "not censored", then yes. Otherwise even stuff aimed at adults can be censored, depending on where you find it.

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#149: May 28th 2016 at 8:50:12 PM

There's an episode about a "Best Friends Day". One pair of best friends is a talking lock and key. And yes, the key is inserted and turned. And before you ask, the moment of penetration is offscreen. Guess they couldn't get it completely past the radar.

For Dora the Explorer. Is this an incredibly lewd amazingly-slipped-past-the-radar obvious scene or someone's mind way in the gutter?

edited 28th May '16 8:50:43 PM by Assassin-sensei

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#150: May 28th 2016 at 9:02:31 PM

Without having seen it, I think the decision would rest on how the scene is played overall. Do the lock and key themselves treat it as anything other than a 100% routine occurrence? Does anyone else?


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