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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1: Sep 18th 2013 at 11:45:59 AM

The trope keeps getting used across the wiki as something like Lame Pun Reaction, basically someone lampshading that no one laughed at their joke. However, the trope is "funny characters are unpopular (or at least not as popular as they would be in real life)."

Honestly, I question its tropeworthiness myself. The description is a bit weird ("While in real life genuinely funny and charming people are social darlings, in TV land they're more seen as annoying losers. The prime examples would have to be Chandler Bing and Xander Harris, who — in their early seasons, at least — were funnier than just about anyone in real life, yet got nothing back but eye-rolling and sighs. You wonder why they hang out with these people." sounds like it was written by someone who considers themselves hilarious but not getting the love and attention they deserve.

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#2: Sep 18th 2013 at 12:04:05 PM

I guess we ought to see how the wicks are used. Dunno about tropeworthiness as the things you mention aren't really arguments against it.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#3: Sep 18th 2013 at 12:22:28 PM

The issue is that it's a stock phrase, and the trope doesn't really jive too well with how the stock phrase is used.

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#4: Sep 18th 2013 at 12:24:24 PM

OK, that seems like reason for a rename at least.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#5: Sep 18th 2013 at 1:28:53 PM

Well, the name (or Tough Crowd, or variations) is used by comedians about an audience who doesn't laugh. Whether or not the jokes are funny doesn't really matter, as long as they're supposed to be funny. If that makes sense.

From what I gather from the trope, it's supposed to be about when the jokes are supposed to be funny to the audience (whether or not that's actually true), but no one laughs in the show. So it's really a bit of a tighter definition of the trope than what the phrase is used as.

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