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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#166251: Dec 8th 2016 at 7:37:50 AM

Post of the Day #1665

Grimdark... not in the least.

Dark? Ohhh hell yes. Very very dark, but not Grimdark.

The whole story is about hope and idealism prevailing over darkness and cyncism. It's the complete antithesis of Grimdark. The darkness exists only as a contrast to the light, and to show just how strong even the faintest glimmer of light and hope can be. Not reveling in darkness for the sake of darkness itself.

But yes it's still really dark.

Also, now on to the equally awesome side stories. Pinkeyes, Hooves of Fate, Memroies......

YMMV fine.. but how the hell is Sturgeon's law at play? Unless you are talking about the massive amount of side-fics it has.

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YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#166252: Dec 8th 2016 at 8:35:39 AM

Ah Sera, you are missed.

I swear I'll get to FOE one of these days... I've got so many other fics I want to get started on, but paradoxically they sound epic enough that I'm willing to savor them a chapter or two at a time, and squeeze in FOE the same way. The Flight of the Alicorn with its conspiracies, Sunset of Time and Long Road to Friendship which are both explicitly divided into acts (and which I like to think of as the Albinocorn Sunset duology), Eternal and Composure (Twilestia duology), Starlight Over Detrot with its everything... I'm planning to polish off Summer Days as an appetizer. I'm also looking forward to the Tangled Roots Trilogy possibly more than it deserves (though a one-shot I checked out by the same author was very well done).

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#166253: Dec 8th 2016 at 8:38:43 AM

It's not an MLP fanfic, but The Metropolitan Man is awesome and you should read it.

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Demetrios Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
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#166254: Dec 8th 2016 at 9:29:39 AM

Why does Discord make the landscape look like a giant chessboard when he takes over a place?

I like to keep my audience riveted.
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#166255: Dec 8th 2016 at 10:10:57 AM

Why not? It's what I would do. Symbolism and stuff.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#166256: Dec 8th 2016 at 10:16:43 AM

It reveals his deep-seated issues with being a Chaos God by having him make the disorderly dirt and grass into a neat, orderly grid that spans on forever and ever.

Or it's an allusion to Nietszche and how "out of chaos comes order."

Prove me wrong, yo.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#166257: Dec 8th 2016 at 10:26:56 AM

wild mass guessideaDiscord has an obsession with games. He sets up his torments as challenges for his victims to beat. He will cheat, but never so much that the game becomes pointless. If his victim manages to cheat him, he will be impressed. If the victims beat the game-

-he will just stand there and let them hit him with the Elements Of Harmony, even though he damn well should know what they do this time around and can clearly see them charging up.

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#166259: Dec 8th 2016 at 11:22:14 AM

Chaos Spirit, at least I insist on calling him that.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#166260: Dec 8th 2016 at 2:33:12 PM

What would the definition of a god even be in Equestria anyway? I mean they're already ruled by a veritable physical god and one third of the populace has access to magic.

edited 8th Dec '16 2:33:59 PM by LordVatek

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#166261: Dec 8th 2016 at 2:39:34 PM

Three thirds, I'm sure Earth Ponies and Pegasi are pretty explicitly magical too.

Now a god is a religion, is worshiped. Discord and Celestial Sisters might be gods to somepony or somebody, but that's a matter of perspective.

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#166262: Dec 8th 2016 at 2:59:22 PM

wild mass guessObjects of Worship in Equestria tend to come in duos, usually two complementary ideas. The Maker's Two Eyes, The Soil and the Seed, First Home and First Mother, The Eagle and the Lion, etc. This is because all magical creatures have an instinctive connection to The Flow, which permeates all things, and are therefore drawn to the notion of harmony. This is also what makes entities like discord so aberrant in their eyes: They embody Wrong Context Magic, and clash with the ponies' most base understanding of their world. This is why, in most cases, Luna and Celestia are not worshiped, because they're seen as inherently competitive elements, and therefore not divine. There are some faiths that recognize that Night and Day create a balance with one another, but even then Luna and Celestia, as individuals, are not seen as being worthy of worship, but merely embodying divine concepts. Prophets, in essence: Respectable, but not Gods.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#166263: Dec 8th 2016 at 4:05:26 PM

I was thinking more about how the likes of Twilight and Cadence would be seen. In a theoretical universe where Celestia and Luna were worshiped, would they be seen as false gods?

I know that we can't really get an actual answer to that, but it's possible fanfic fuel (though I'm certain it's been done before).

edited 8th Dec '16 4:05:45 PM by LordVatek

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Wryte Pretentious Git from A Disney Pocket Dimension Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#166264: Dec 8th 2016 at 4:10:14 PM

Plenty of polytheistic religions have stories of mortals ascending to god/demigodhood through great deeds.

What matters in this life is much more than winning for ourselves. What really matters is helping others win, too. - F. Rogers.
marcen12 Since: Feb, 2013
#166265: Dec 8th 2016 at 4:13:51 PM

All available on your nearest fanfiction.

Demetrios Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
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#166267: Dec 8th 2016 at 6:45:27 PM

I got a Princess Luna plushie!

I got suspended from school today.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#166268: Dec 8th 2016 at 7:11:11 PM

Those are two very different things.

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#166270: Dec 8th 2016 at 7:27:35 PM

Had the idea for the original kings of the pony tribes being immortal uber ponies of their respective tribes. They had this to say about godhood:

"At first, they worshiped us as gods and, for a time, we believed them. For what was there that was as might as us? We knew of nothing beyond us and thought everything was in our grasp. It was only, after time, that we learned bit by bit of things we could not do. Our faith in ourselves was shaken.

"And then Discord happened."

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#166271: Dec 8th 2016 at 7:36:06 PM

I get the feeling that Celestia would probably be very uncomfortable with being worshiped. I mean, in canon, we know that she kinda wishes other ponies weren't so uptight around her. That and she doesn't seem fundamentally different from other ponies in general. More powerful, yes, but other than that at heart she's just a particularly experienced and powerful pony.

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#166273: Dec 8th 2016 at 7:51:01 PM

Triptych goes into the Unwanted False Faith for alicorns. Among other things, Twilight gets asked to bless foals when she happens to be present at their birth and is pretty uncomfortable with it since she knows she couldn't physically help them. Celestia and Luna feel much the same and apparently got thrust into the role similarly to Twilight, but I haven't really gotten to those stories yet. This is one of the less depressing parts of that story.

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#166274: Dec 8th 2016 at 8:09:11 PM

Stuff like that just seems weird to me, since none of the characters in the show have ever quite shown a religious degree of reverence toward Celestia. At least not in that fashion. It's an interesting idea to explore though.

EDIT: And now I'm going to bed.

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edited 8th Dec '16 8:31:57 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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