Misused: Good All Along get usage counts
Deadlock Clock: 4th Aug 2013 11:59:00 PM

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26 AnotherDuck15th May 2013 08:33:07 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I don't know which one was meant here, though.
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27 Rethkir15th May 2013 09:07:23 PM from the gap between dimensions
Sandbox.Not Always Evil is the current trope description, but with a different name.

Sandbox.Good All Along is the current trope name, but is a different trope.

edited 15th May '13 9:08:42 PM by Rethkir

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28 Spark916th May 2013 08:20:43 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[tup]
Special trousers. Very heroic.
29 Rethkir19th May 2013 10:08:54 PM from the gap between dimensions
Any other thoughts? This is basically Launch Displacement. Good All Along -> Not Always Evil (or whatever title we choose.)

edited 19th May '13 10:09:07 PM by Rethkir

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30 SeptimusHeap20th May 2013 01:52:55 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Good job, but Sandbox.Good All Along needs a longer description.
I wrote a description to work with, but I can't say I like it much. I'm kind of tired.

The line between good and evil is a little blurry for some people sometimes, and occasionally observers get confused about which is which. The evil overlord has been quietly gathering power for some time, or the sinister adviser has been whispering into the king's ear about how he should be plotting a stricter regime. Maybe The Dragon always defeats the hero but never manages to quite kill him. Then it suddenly comes out that the overlord was attempting to protect the land from demonic invasion, or the adviser was attempting to prevent a civil war. Maybe The Dragon was intentionally letting the hero go while secretly trying to help him in his own way. Whatever the case may be, in turns out that they were never truly evil.

The character that was Good All Along is an antagonistic or apparently villainous force that will generally be working against the hero of the story. Their motives are usually unclear, but in the end (and often at the worst time) it turns out that they were trying to do the right thing all along. And now you destroyed their army, so who's going to fight off those demons?
32 Rethkir20th May 2013 07:16:05 AM from the gap between dimensions
I just realized that this is very similar to Reverse Mole. It even misuses Good All Along in the description. But our definition of Good All Along is broader (or at least it should be, since Good All Along is not exclusive to moles). Reverse Mole needs some changing in the description to be a subtrope. Otherwise, we'll have a duplicate trope.

edited 20th May '13 7:20:38 AM by Rethkir

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33 Madrugada21st Jun 2013 02:05:05 PM , Relationship Status: In season
With Mod Hat On
This thread has had no activity in the last month.

Clocking.

Move it or lose it.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
34 Rethkir24th Jun 2013 09:55:03 AM from the gap between dimensions
Any other thoughts? I really don't want this to die.
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35 Spark924th Jun 2013 10:21:26 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
I approve of post #27.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
36 Rethkir24th Jun 2013 11:47:34 AM from the gap between dimensions
So, Sandbox.Good All Along needs a longer description, but other than that, theses are ready to launch. Anyone want to help with the description? I'll try writing one tonight if not.
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37 Rethkir24th Jun 2013 08:12:07 PM from the gap between dimensions
Could you please give this one a little more time? I haven't been able to write a description yet, and wicks still need to be sorted. I should have a description soon.
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38 Rethkir24th Jun 2013 10:13:11 PM from the gap between dimensions
Sorry for the tipple post. I wrote a description for Sandbox.Good All Along.
For Sandbox.Not Always Evil, I removed the following:

"Compare Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain. Compare and Contrast Evil All Along. May result in a Heel-Face Turn (but that barely ever happens)."

and added:

"This trope should not be confused with Good All Along, which applies to a character who was thought to be a bad guy, but is revealed to have always been good."

Likewise, Sandbox.Good All Along refers to the Not Always Evil being under this name.

edited 24th Jun '13 10:23:26 PM by Rethkir

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39 Rethkir26th Jun 2013 01:11:06 PM from the gap between dimensions
I don't want to make the split without at least some feedback on this. Any opinions at all?

edited 29th Jun '13 9:47:47 PM by Rethkir

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40 SeptimusHeap1st Jul 2013 06:12:08 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Based on experience, you might try to write a more detailed "this is my proposed course of action" post. People who can't figure out that easily will otherwise ignore feedback requests.
41 Rethkir1st Jul 2013 09:34:08 AM from the gap between dimensions
[up] Thanks for the tip. wink

My plan of action is this:

I would like some feedback on this plan before I launch these sandboxes.

edited 1st Jul '13 9:38:10 PM by Rethkir

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42 Willbyr1st Aug 2013 06:09:33 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Re-clocked. What still needs to be done?
43 Spark91st Aug 2013 06:17:29 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up][up] I like it.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
44 SeptimusHeap1st Aug 2013 06:18:13 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Throwing my headband into the ring as well.
45 Rethkir4th Aug 2013 10:09:39 AM from the gap between dimensions
Haven't checked this in a while. I'm going to make the changes.

Okay. Made the switch.
Going through the wicks. There was much... much more misuse than proper use, so after the rename, most of these don't need to be changed.

Could someone please explain what Touhou is an example of? I'm seeing it all the time, and I'm not sure which of these fits. I am completely unfamiliar with it.

edited 4th Aug '13 12:28:20 PM by Rethkir

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46 StarSword6th Aug 2013 05:02:01 PM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
I'm sure there's a thread for it in the Video Game forums.
Is this done? Or are there still wicks after T that need to be done?
48 Rethkir12th Aug 2013 06:37:53 PM from the gap between dimensions
I've gone through the examples. 99% of them match the current definition. The others, I directed to Not Always Evil. So, I think we're done.
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49 SeptimusHeap13th Aug 2013 12:27:55 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
You forgot the discussion move. I'll ask for that and thread closure.
50 Willbyr13th Aug 2013 03:54:20 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
[up] Done. Locking up.
The system doesn't know you right now, so no post button for you.
You need to Get Known to get one of those.

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