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Needs Help: Pocky get usage counts

 1 Macron Notes, Mon, 8th Apr '13 1:45:00 PM from PA Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
The article (and it's examples) are just "this candy appeared in work at some point", so it doesn't seem to be an actual trope. It only has 25 wicks and 27 inbounds despite being about four years old now, according to it's YKTTW. If it's going to be kept at all, would it be feasible to move it to UsefulNotes/ note ? I feel no matter what happens to Pocky, it should not be treated like a trope.

edited 8th Apr '13 1:50:35 PM by MacronNotes

 2 Septimus Heap, Mon, 8th Apr '13 1:59:05 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The examples are "this work uses a Pocky", but the way the description is written it doesn't look like something that would warrant an Useful Notes page - too little information and the presence of Pocky in works seems not to be worthy of listing. I'd actually cut this.

 3 Editor Pall Mall, Mon, 8th Apr '13 2:01:37 PM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
Cut the article from the wiki, it is not a trope anymore than characters eating Mars Bars is a trope. I have no opinion on whether we make a 'Useful Notes' article on this.

[up]Or what Septimus said.

edited 8th Apr '13 2:02:54 PM by EditorPallMall

Keep it breezy!
Cut.

 5 Noaqiyeum, Mon, 8th Apr '13 4:51:42 PM from wandering to and fro about the Earth Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
I am pretty sure we don't need this.
"I know I raised more questions than I answered, but I hope now we are all confused on an higher level and about more important things."
 6 Another Duck, Mon, 8th Apr '13 4:54:30 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
The closest to a trope is the Pocky Dare, or whatever it's called, which is really just a Pocky variant of Spaghetti Kiss. Usually doesn't get to the kiss part, though.
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 7 Willbyr, Mon, 8th Apr '13 8:58:32 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
I'd be fine with cutting it.
 8 shimaspawn, Mon, 8th Apr '13 9:36:34 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Cut. Pocky is a fandom obsession, not a trope.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
Conceptually Frameworked
The Pocky Spaghetti Kiss or pocky as an Oral Fixation Fixation might be subtropes if they had enough examples. As it is though, examples can probably go on both those pages, and the pocky page could just be cut.
"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
In uffish thought
A pocky kiss can go on Spaghetti Kiss — same principle. For an Oral Fixation Fixation, I imaging that all that matters about the food is sweet/savory/spicy, since that's something other characters might comment on but further distinctions — like pocky as its own subtrope — aren't needed. Supporting cutting this page.

(Damn, I'm in Yack Fest too much and keep thinking about the troper called Pocky. This post was strange to write.)

edited 9th Apr '13 12:31:46 AM by Telcontar

 11 Spark 9, Tue, 9th Apr '13 9:41:00 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
Yeah, cut it. A list of "all works containing some object" is not a trope.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Ten people in a row saying we don't need this. Ready to cutlist?

 13 shoboni, Tue, 9th Apr '13 1:13:09 PM from Iowa, USA
[up][up][up]I think the second would just be the character having it as a Trademark Favorite Food

Also, yes, it probably needs cut. It's almost as bad as when people kept using My Little Pony as a trope on works mentioning it(yes, I'm a brony and I think that was stupid)

edited 9th Apr '13 1:15:09 PM by shoboni

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I'm almost tempted to archive this somewhere as a classic example of Not a Trope. In some ways, it's a better example than People Sitting On Chairs.

 15 Helter Skelter, Tue, 9th Apr '13 5:32:26 PM Relationship Status: Drift compatible
[up] I don't think it is. Pocky, at least, brings up the ideas of a culture and another country's fascination with that culture. Not a trope, but I don't think it gets the idea across better. I like People Sit on Chairs because there's a lot of things you can associate with that trope—just not literally them sitting down.

Anyway, I say cut. It's not a Useful Notes either, I think. If there's a Useful Notes for Japanese culture or otaku culture add a blurb, but otherwise it's not terribly more useful than literally just naming everything the Japanese eat.

 16 Macron Notes, Tue, 9th Apr '13 5:45:34 PM from PA Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
Alright, that's 14(?) people. I'll cutlist this and clear the wicks.

 17 Septimus Heap, Wed, 10th Apr '13 2:05:44 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Dewicked, tagged and cutlisted.

 18 Septimus Heap, Sun, 14th Apr '13 1:35:30 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The cut request hasn't been accepted or rejected, but Eddie posted on the discussion page "Move to Useful Notes".

...Why? Pocky isn't even a particularly popular food. Saving inbounds?

edited 14th Apr '13 7:19:43 AM by Arha

It only has 25 inbounds. I mean, I wouldn't be adverse to turning this into a useful notes page, I just don't really see the point.
 21 Noaqiyeum, Sun, 14th Apr '13 12:00:53 PM from wandering to and fro about the Earth Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Same. It's a pretty Useless Note.
"I know I raised more questions than I answered, but I hope now we are all confused on an higher level and about more important things."
 22 Xtifr, Sun, 14th Apr '13 3:11:52 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
I'm pretty sure 25 is more inbounds than the cutmasters like to cut.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
I'm sure we have something like Food Tropes.

Yep, there you go. Redirect it there.

edited 14th Apr '13 3:32:29 PM by Arha

Cut declined.

 25 Editor Pall Mall, Sun, 14th Apr '13 5:15:06 PM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
Who declined the cut and why? If there is a reason to keep the article then let us hear it.
Keep it breezy!
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