On TV Tropes, it's very common for editors to misuse appearance tropes, as well as tropes whose names make them sound like they could be appearance tropes.
Meaningful Appearance tropes are often misused in ways that overlook the "Meaningful" aspect, resulting in Zero Context Examples and misuse in the form of examples that have no meaning even if the tropes themselves are not People Sit on Chairs.
The Appearance Tropes Cleanup sandbox covers tropes with potential issues. Tropes that simply require cleanup will go through this thread, while tropes that require more significant action will have to go through the Trope Repair Shop.
April 2, 2023 update: This thread is no longer for making changes to tropes, and was brought back from the Projects Morgue solely for cleanup. Making changes to tropes is still a job for the Trope Repair Shop.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 2nd 2023 at 9:18:26 AM
Anyway, back to Fingerless Gloves (we can't get too sidetracked).
If nobody wants to sponsor the drafts (or has the time for it), couldn't we do the TRS method of dewicking, saving examples, and yarding the trope ideas instead? We can set up example-catching sandboxes and link them.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI'm planning to launch my Sinister Spy Agency draft soon, so I could start one if you'd like. Which one do you think would be good to start?
Hmm. Well, the two we need are Cool Gloves and Hobo Gloves (or whatever we end up calling them). I guess just pick whichever you're most interested in.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI think I'll take Hobo Gloves.
EDIT: Alright, I started the draft. If you think there are any ways I could improve it, let me know.
Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Aug 13th 2021 at 10:44:12 AM
Sorry for possibly side tracking the thread again, but I'm tempted to stick Vapor Wear on the sandbox, if only because most of the on-page and subpage examples are basically X is obviously not wearing underwear or a bra without any meaning given, and I doubt the off page examples are any better
My troper wall...is that what that actually is? I usually just see it potholed interchangeably with Stripperiffic, and I try to avoid reading fanservice pages themselves.
Which would imply that, yes, it might need a look at, albeit later down the road.
Edited by nrjxll on Aug 14th 2021 at 12:56:04 PM
I think I am ready to get back to doing work on tv tropes at least for now (I don’t know how much I can get done with mobile buut). I don’t think I will put any energy on new TL Ps (particularly for clean up projects) for a while now. They just take up too much energy and I don’t like how waiting on drafts to launch slows down the thread.
I think I’ll focus on cleaning the wicks like War Jay suggested. I will move anything salvageable I find to the Hobo Gloves draft or any other drafts that’s open right now.
I don’t think we can turn Fingerless Gloves into a disambiguation until Hobo Gloves or what other tropes launch so I guess that’s why we have to wait for them? Honestly maybe we can just use broad supertropes like Meaningful Appearance to fill in the gaps.
Macron's notesWelcome back!
I'm not sure what to do beyond cleaning wicks... though maybe at this point all we really can do is hunt for every Hobo Gloves example, and every "Cool Gloves" example.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessSo, I don’t think the way we have been working on the Appearance tropes has been for the last year or so. The thread doesn’t have the interest and manpower that it used to. Me and a few other people have chip away at one trope for anywhere between 1-3+ months at a time (especially when we need to split off new tropes or remake old ones with TLP drafts).
I don’t know. I feel it would be much more productive to discuss problem tropes at length and then make separate TRS threads for them if we decide it’s needed and then everything that’s just clean up maintenance, creating/splitting off new tropes, wick checks can stay here. I think tropes (that have wick check + have been discussed previously) that don’t need potential TL Ps or splits should have their own TRS threads.
I know the purpose of this thread was to have one central thread for all appearance related tropes because they were a systemic issue and we didn’t want to clog the TRS with them but we have a 50 thread limit so that won’t happen again so I don’t see an issue with allowing some appearance tropes to have their own thread.
Edited by MacronNotes on Sep 29th 2021 at 9:26:36 AM
Macron's notesI agree.
I have a wick check done for Badass Beard, whenever we're able to discuss it.
That's a fair point. This thread used to be able to tackle a lot more, because it had a lot more manpower.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI wouldn't be against retiring this thread in favor of moving appearance tropes back to TRS, similarly to how the Trivia thread was retired in favor of taking those proposals to TRS. I don't think the problem with appearance-related non-tropes that caused appearance tropes to be moved from TRS to here is as bad as it used to be, anyway.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 10th 2021 at 3:41:26 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Similar threads, like the Badass Tropes one, are also dying out and could be closed down as well.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI haven't really looked at that thread much, but since TRS seems to have attracted a decent amount more users than when I started posting there in 2017, I wouldn't be against just using TRS for all this stuff instead of fragmenting the projects.
Edit: I accidentally typed "in favor of" instead of "against" originally. I'm tired and accidentally posted the opposite of what I actually meant to say.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 10th 2021 at 3:44:21 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.That one stagnated because we attempted to tackle Action Girl... and we were all collectively stumped on how to handle it.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness- Hmm... Well, Action Girl has a lot of Sub-Tropes... Which could be sorted into sections and Missing Supertrope-s spawned to cover some bases?
Where's the thread?
Edited by Malady on Oct 10th 2021 at 4:54:06 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Uh, hey, I just noticed Odango Hair still has the little "this is being discussed" banner. That's okay to remove, right?
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢Yeah, we already worked on that trope so we don’t need the banner anymore. I removed it.
Edited by MacronNotes on Nov 1st 2021 at 11:50:22 AM
Macron's notesSooo, since there has been no progress on the Hobo Gloves TLP and no one seems to be interested in making TLP for Gloves Of Toughness/ Gloves Of Coolness, I think we should just shelve it for later and work on a trope that isn’t going to take as much manpower to fix.
Edited by MacronNotes on Dec 14th 2021 at 5:20:38 AM
Macron's notesWell, that's if this thread actually stays open, of course...
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessThe Hobo Gloves TLP is in good shape.
Not sure if we are going to close or not but we might as well try to get Fingerless Gloves done while the thread’s still open.
I haven’t looked at the draft for a while so I thought it still needed examples. It seems ready to launch to me. I think I’m going to bump it.
Edited by MacronNotes on Dec 14th 2021 at 3:56:48 PM
Macron's notesI just launched Hobo Gloves.
I agree.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.