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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#252: Mar 23rd 2013 at 2:20:15 PM

Angry White Man, though not recently created, lacks an example section, and probably never had a YKTTW. Worse, the description mostly rambles on about Real Life politics, and makes some dubious historical assertions.

edited 23rd Mar '13 2:20:32 PM by Prfnoff

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#254: Mar 24th 2013 at 3:17:14 AM

Back from today's page typing run. Sidenote: Do we have a horror fan out there? I've seen plenty of subpages for horror stuff being created.

Anyhow, new bad pages: Disney Junior, Henry Hugglemonster, Cosmic Terra Commentaries and Zhenra Zeyro.

Marc Forster, Scooby Doo Night Of 100 Frights and The Julekalender need to be cutlisted once they've been moved to their correct namespace.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#255: Mar 24th 2013 at 11:01:07 AM

Cut the first four, move the second three.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#256: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:19:37 PM

Cutlisted these pages. Also, someone created Krav Maga just some minutes ago. They've asked for help on the discussion page but I am not quite sure I can provide it without sounding terse in the process.

edited 24th Mar '13 12:20:25 PM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#257: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:37:05 PM

[up] At the very least, that should go under UsefulNotes/.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#258: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:38:35 PM

Did that, and I will PM the creator. Anyone up for cutlisting the Main/ page before it picks up more inbounds?

Delayed "Oh, Crap!".

edited 24th Mar '13 3:42:25 PM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#259: Mar 24th 2013 at 6:35:49 PM

I turned Krav Maga into a redirect instead. I doubt there will be any naming conflicts with a trope.

Re Delayed Oh, Crap!: Cutlist and send to YKTTW. Needs a better name at minimum, so say nothing of more examples.

edited 24th Mar '13 6:36:55 PM by Catbert

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#261: Mar 25th 2013 at 12:20:13 AM

I turned Krav Maga into a redirect instead. I doubt there will be any naming conflicts with a trope.

That is not the only problem.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#262: Mar 25th 2013 at 10:51:09 AM

Unknown Assailant is currently a stub with only two examples, and seems to have been launched without a YKTTW. Aside from being badly written (using first-person for instance) and vaguely defined, it also isn't sure whether it is an Omnipresent Trope or whether it is worthwhile to add examples. 8 articles currently link to it.

edited 25th Mar '13 10:09:32 PM by Morgenthaler

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#263: Mar 25th 2013 at 11:04:51 AM

That one goes back to Mar 2011.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#264: Mar 25th 2013 at 11:07:03 AM

Hm... How far back does this have authority over? I'd say send to YKTTW, but I'm not sure if that would need a TRS, considering its age.

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#265: Mar 25th 2013 at 6:51:29 PM

It is worth nothing that the Cutlist Screen now says: Please stop listing "ghosts" and Main redirects to works where there is no title collision.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#266: Mar 26th 2013 at 12:16:30 AM

That is exactly why I ask not to make unnecessary redirects. Like the one you made a few posts above.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#267: Mar 27th 2013 at 6:12:44 AM

Unwitting Muggle Friend got launched again.

This time it has enough examples, but the issues about whether or not it's already covered are not addressed, the description is still an example as thesis, and the description still needs help. And it had one hat.

I'm not disagreeing that it's a trope, but I do believe it's covered by Locked Out of the Loop.

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#268: Mar 27th 2013 at 6:15:37 AM

Hmm, looking at the time stamps I see the launcher waited quite a bit before launching. Why weren't the concerns addressed in the YKTTW?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#269: Mar 27th 2013 at 9:23:04 AM

Probably because YKTTW is generally bad for addressing description stuff unless the OP or another poster aggressively pushes for it. And the OP also has to be patient about waiting to launch until ready, which this OP doesn't seem to be.

At this point, I'm not sure if it would be better to unlaunch it yet again (given that it didn't have hats and there were still unresolved issues) or to send it to TRS, which is much better equipped to deal with the question of overlap. (I think that they're distinct tropes; if they're not, Locked Out of the Loop needs a dramatic description overhaul.)

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#270: Mar 27th 2013 at 10:06:37 AM

Beast Boy and Pettson And Findus. Stub articles (Without tropes). Agree on cutlisting?

Also Locked Out of the Loop and Unwitting Muggle Friend are about the hero and their friends being oblivious respectively.

edited 27th Mar '13 10:13:46 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#271: Mar 27th 2013 at 10:24:10 AM

L Oot L says it's about "The Hero" but the quote, the examples, and the related tropes all seem to just mean "hero" as a heroic character, not as The Hero.

Either way, L Oot L does need some fixing.

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
LordGro from Germany Since: May, 2010
#273: Mar 27th 2013 at 2:11:23 PM

Somebody created O Ring Orifice without YKTTW. — I am pretty sure it is the restoration of a page cut under the new content policy.

(edit) [down]Thanks. I just went to Ask The Tropers, but I saw Oberoniss had already brought it up.

edited 27th Mar '13 2:16:41 PM by LordGro

Let's just say and leave it at that.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#274: Mar 27th 2013 at 2:15:07 PM

Yes. I am currently reporting it in ATT and Content Policy discussion.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#275: Mar 27th 2013 at 2:26:32 PM

On another note, Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain. Check this: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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