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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#501: Sep 20th 2014 at 4:30:03 PM

Seriously, it's like the writer is trying to kill off every hero besides Mine, as a way to stretch out the whole "drama". Which doesn't really work when we know she's gonna bite it soon.

Also, looks like Esdeath has finally gone all Yandere.

edited 20th Sep '14 4:32:06 PM by LDragon2

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
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#502: Sep 20th 2014 at 4:37:42 PM

It's like whoa. Really, I was glad this series didn't have plot armor but now it's ridiculous, if everyone but tatsumi dies then why should we care?

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#503: Sep 20th 2014 at 4:42:11 PM

It's also why I can't buy the writer stretching out the whole Tatsumi x Mine thing. If he had been with a different character who is more central to the plot (Akame or Esdeath), that would indeed have some tension to it, because their odds of surviving are higher, which would make it all the more shocking and tragic should one of them bite it.

As it is, I'm just waiting for Mine's inevitable demise, and I can't invest in her and Tatsumi's relationship as a result.

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
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#504: Sep 20th 2014 at 4:47:03 PM

I am actually invested for the opposite reason, her not being the titular character or the main rival makes Mine more valuable as a love interest in return. She will most likely die, true, but at least her being a love interest who actually establishes a relationship with the main character out of her own volition instead of waiting for her deathbed to confess her feelings is rather nice. Eponine is my favorite Les Miserables character but still, man. Overplayed as shit.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#505: Sep 20th 2014 at 5:12:59 PM

The issue here is Mine going to die... if you take the Prophet guys words... yeah sure... It'll come but who said it was soon? Mine could be the last major death.

but... ironically Esdeath is no longer the primary candidate for it now... cause Esdeath's ire is at Tatsumi -whose life Akame promised she'd come save-

This is not about setting up Mine's death anymore... Narratively speaking... Esdeath just raised her own death flag the highest.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#506: Sep 20th 2014 at 6:50:35 PM

Tatsumi BROS FOREVER

TO SUBMIT TO YOU ESDEATH IS WORSE THEN JOINING THE EMPIRE!!

MORE SPOILERS THEN YOU CAN SHAKE A DEAD CAT AT!

Bros Forever 1

Bros Forever 2

Bros Forever 3

Bros Forever 4

Bros Forever 5

Bros Forever 6

Bros Forever 7

edited 20th Sep '14 6:57:15 PM by FrozenWolf2

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#507: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:38:13 PM

Wow, Esdeath really appears desperate in those last few pics. Wonder if she feels some regret at the end.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#508: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:44:24 PM

nvm

edited 20th Sep '14 7:49:54 PM by FrozenWolf2

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#509: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:05:23 PM

Lubbock death was rather quick. I'll miss him.

Is anyone really surprised that Esdese finally decided to off Tatsumi? That's why catching attention of violent murderers is never a good thing, no matter how hot they are.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#510: Sep 21st 2014 at 1:26:49 AM

Actually, I was surprised, because she seemed convinced Tatsumi could do no wrong. It was a strange quirk of hers to treat Tatsumi like he's a Mary Sue. Granted, she did say she'd pick her subordinates over her One True Love, so in retrospect, it does make sense. I also can't actually blame either; Tatsumi will not abandon his friends and Esdeath doesn't wanna ask keep trying when he will never change his mind.

Her decision to have him executed says one thing: that the series is about ten or so chapters left from finishing. You can say whatever you want about what'll happen to Mine, but Esdeath's decision to have Tatsumi killed very likely means that Esdeath herself is going to die. She's the only reason the Prime Minister is still alive, so if she's gone, he'll follow soon enough.

Akame herself said she'd defend Tatsumi with her life and declared that she'd be the one to kill Esdeath. Plus, Lubbock mentioned Akame had a trump card. Last time we saw someone from Night Raid use their trump card, Syura was killed. Seems very likely that Esdeath's gonna face her end.

Nevertheless, I do think Esdeath feels bad for ordering the execution; she seemed desperate to get him to listen, so I'm pretty sure she (or the author) will delay the fuck out of the execution so Night Raid can conveniently save him. Because Tatsumi won't die. I think Esdeath will try one last time to get Tatsumi to say yes (Frollo to Esmeralda style), before Night Raid shows up.

Personally, I'd rather not have Esdeath die until the very end of the series. She got me into the series, so I want her to have a good death. I'd like it if she went out with a smile while confusing Akame as Tatsumi's girlfriend instead of Mine, though I can see her as the type that would curse herself for losing because she thinks it'd make her feel weak.

edited 21st Sep '14 7:10:06 AM by Serocco

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FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#511: Sep 21st 2014 at 7:14:41 AM

but she already feels weak

Esdeath has lost her battle of wills with Tatsumi, she is visibly shaken at the end of the chapter

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#512: Sep 21st 2014 at 7:29:34 AM

What, is she gonna break down in tears and then kill herself for losing the battle of wills to Tatsumi? Noooooo, that'd suck for a finale.

edited 21st Sep '14 7:37:53 AM by Serocco

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FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#513: Sep 21st 2014 at 7:54:51 AM

I never said she was gonna do that, I'm merely saying we've seen Esdeath for the first time in a position where she can't just browbeat someone into getting what she wants

which is a nice throwback to her intro where she killed that one dude cause she was disappointed that someone reported to be strong bowed down to her so easily.

Here she's gotten someone she wanted someone strong in character... and it isn't working out for her.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#514: Sep 21st 2014 at 8:05:24 AM

She never tried to browbeat Tatsumi, though. She tried to convince him, and she failed repeatedly. She's clearly not happy. She even looks kinda depressed here.

In a way, this is a more fitting defeat for her, because she can't get her One True Love no matter what she does. She lost, utterly, without anyone even having to fight her. She's probably gonna kill herself after this, or be so blase that she'll allow herself to die in a real fight.

edited 21st Sep '14 8:11:01 AM by Serocco

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danna45 Owner of Dead End from Wagnaria Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#515: Sep 21st 2014 at 8:20:41 AM

Still cryin' over the sunk Esdese ship. It was inevitable but still. Was the most fun character in the series so I didn't want her to get offed as a villain, but welp. I guess it's better than some weird asspull to get her to abandon the empire.

RIP Lubbock, good night sweet prince.

"And you must be Jonathan Joestar!" - Sue
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#516: Sep 21st 2014 at 8:34:10 AM

Like I said, I just want a good death for her.

The only pairing that seems likely to stick is Mine/Tatsumi. Assuming, you know, Tatsumi isn't executed. >.>

edited 21st Sep '14 8:35:18 AM by Serocco

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danna45 Owner of Dead End from Wagnaria Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#517: Sep 21st 2014 at 8:41:34 AM

What are the chances of Tatsumi getting killed? He's the protagonist, he can't die here when they aren't even close to defeating the empire. It's too late in the story to do the decoy protagonist thing. Shifting the focus to Akame who's been relevant since never would be weird. I can't deny it won't happen though.

Now, Mine dying, that I can see happening sooner or later. Unless Tatsumi gets offed, in which case she'll either kill Esdese and die, or get killed by Esdese in her path of revenge.

"And you must be Jonathan Joestar!" - Sue
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#518: Sep 21st 2014 at 8:47:21 AM

That's one of the weirder parts about Akame Ga Kiru. The Red-Eyed Killer herself has been either Out of Focus or Demoted to Extra so much that a fuckin' prequel manga had to be developed for her.

The most plot relevance she's had since Tatsumi joined was to declare that she will kill Esdeath and has a vague trump card that could be used to kill Esdeath, maybe.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#519: Sep 21st 2014 at 8:58:48 AM

It's actually rather superb writing. Esdeath lost the most important fight in the series (Tatsumi's heart) without anyone fighting at all.

edited 21st Sep '14 9:00:32 AM by Sledgesaul

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#520: Sep 21st 2014 at 9:06:27 AM

When a character resolves their backstory or fulfills their role, they tend to die here. Esdeath's love for Tatsumi was a huge part of the plot, and now she's lost it forever. Her death flag has been raised.

And consequently, Prime Minister Honest's death flag is at half-mast. We're heading to the climax now. Is it gonna be Akame vs Esdeath or Akame vs Kurome?

edited 21st Sep '14 9:21:12 AM by Serocco

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ashnazg Since: Dec, 2009
#521: Sep 21st 2014 at 10:45:42 AM

[up]Both, obviously.

I'd say that even Lubbock's death still doesn't throw this into Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy for me. But I do have a taste for Kill Em All series, I suppose.

I'm surprised Syura would die with barely a chance to use his Teigu. Unless it's going to be retrieved and used by someone else?

Edit: Clearly I should actually read the chapter rather than just the spoilers here and there. I guess that's it for that Teigu then.

edited 21st Sep '14 11:14:30 AM by ashnazg

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#522: Sep 21st 2014 at 10:52:53 AM

It's actually rather superb writing. Esdeath lost the most important fight in the series (Tatsumi's heart) without anyone fighting at all.

I'm sorry, but when did this become a romance manga where the most important thing is who the protagonists gets with?

Because I kind of recall that there was something about fighting the corrupt empire that sounded more important than that.

@Serocco- I'm not sure we are at the end of the story just yet. Esdese role is probably coming to an end, but that could just mean a big shift in the story, and not ending.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#523: Sep 21st 2014 at 11:14:45 AM

I think what Sledge meant is that Tatsumi's heart was most important for Esdeath, and losing it without even launching a single punch is the best way to beat her since she doesn't get her goal.

[up]No, we're not at the end yet, but we're getting close. If Esdeath dies, the Prime Minister is done for, because I honestly doubt General Budo is gonna pick up the slack since barely anybody in Night Raid knows about him. Besides, Esdeath is The Heavy; Budo's gonna have a really hard act to follow.

edited 21st Sep '14 11:16:15 AM by Serocco

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#524: Sep 21st 2014 at 11:27:26 AM

[up][up]You have a Fate avatar and you ask what love and shipping has to do with epic fantasy? The answer is: EVERYTHING. THAT IS THE WAY OF NASU.

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FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#525: Sep 21st 2014 at 5:03:28 PM

Reading the last two chapters as one whole thing makes it work better as the parallel thing is more clear

Esdeath and Tatsumi's conversation is pretty much a repeat of their first conversation in Kill the temptation -even the Standing and Kneeling positions are there but reversed- there is even a bit of call back to Esdeath's offer to Liver. Tatsumi's reaction to Rabac's death is a far cry from his reaction to Scheene's

Honest's shrugging off Syura's death is of course Parallel to Syura's own dismissal of Champ and Enishi's deaths complete with Dorothea being taken aback by the quickness of it... Like father like son

Even Rabac and Syura's deaths have parallels, as they both are ultimately killed by making the same mistake, underestimating their opponent, Syura's more do to his perceived notion that Rabac isn't one of those tough guys... and Rabac counting on the Empire's desire to reclaim the Teigu.

Izou however atleast shows respect for Rabac's drive. while Syrua gets mourned for maybe 5 seconds tops.


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