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Okay, so this thread is for cleaning Actors, Voice Actors, Musicians, and the rest of the Creators articles from Personal Appearance Tropes and other tropes about them as a person. We should only be troping their career as an actor. If the person is a musician, only appearance tropes that are featured in their songs and music videos can be listed. Authors and Artists can only have these tropes if they appear in their works or a common theme in them.

In short, these tropes need to be removed.

Also, after you cleaned a page, add a hidden edit notice to ensure people won't add them back again.

Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 20th 2022 at 6:01:52 AM

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#1: Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:46:14 PM

Okay, so this thread is for cleaning Actors, Voice Actors, Musicians, and the rest of the Creators articles from Personal Appearance Tropes and other tropes about them as a person. We should only be troping their career as an actor. If the person is a musician, only appearance tropes that are featured in their songs and music videos can be listed. Authors and Artists can only have these tropes if they appear in their works or a common theme in them.

In short, these tropes need to be removed.

Also, after you cleaned a page, add a hidden edit notice to ensure people won't add them back again.

Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 20th 2022 at 6:01:52 AM

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#2: Jul 2nd 2012 at 3:39:53 PM

W-Z done

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#3: Jul 2nd 2012 at 5:30:12 PM

S-V also done, but it would be nice if someone else looked over Charlie Sheen. I'm not sure what to do with that page. I need a break now.

edited 2nd Jul '12 5:30:40 PM by CompletelyNormalGuy

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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#4: Jul 3rd 2012 at 1:29:00 AM

Words cannot describe how happy I am to have carte blance to remove this kind of trope. (I've actually had someone PM me in the past asking me why I removed personal tropes from actor pages.)

A question: what do we do with Romance on the Set? Normally I'd cut anything referring to the actor's love life, but that's a Real Life actor trope par excellence.

EDIT: OK, why is Bettie Page listed as an actor? She was a pin-up model.

edited 3rd Jul '12 1:30:23 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#5: Jul 3rd 2012 at 2:46:31 PM

P-R done. Maybe I'll come back to this later.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#6: Jul 5th 2012 at 2:38:41 PM

A of Actors is done, will do B and C later. We should probably also look at Musicians as well.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Jul 6th 2012 at 12:47:43 PM

"A question: what do we do with Romance on the Set? Normally I'd cut anything referring to the actor's love life, but that's a Real Life actor trope par excellence."

That's a trivia trope, so it might go on the person's Trivia/ namespace?

Also, are we clearing out trope pages, person pages, or both? I might be able to help, but I want to be sure.

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#8: Jul 6th 2012 at 1:38:30 PM

I have been leaving Romance on the Set for the most part. If I shouldn't be doing so, then I will go back and fix that.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Jul 6th 2012 at 2:04:00 PM

^ Do you mean on the actor's pages?

And if so, what about tropes that they do in publicity photos and red carpet events? I would think some still apply to them, given that they are part of the image they try to present.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#10: Nov 8th 2012 at 12:13:05 AM

I'll fix "C" and "D" of actors tomorrow night.

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#11: Nov 8th 2012 at 12:50:03 AM

Right. I had forgotten about this. I'll get back to it tomorrow, starting from O.

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#12: Nov 8th 2012 at 7:04:50 PM

I took care of O.

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wuggles Since: Jul, 2009
#13: Nov 9th 2012 at 3:00:24 PM

Also, maybe you could put a hidden note on those pages? I've had to clean up Kristen Stewart and Taylor Swift's pages like twice.

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#14: Nov 9th 2012 at 3:02:07 PM

We might need an edit notice for this.

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#15: Nov 9th 2012 at 3:02:52 PM

(Never mind)

edited 9th Nov '12 3:03:16 PM by Nohbody

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#16: Apr 10th 2013 at 10:11:16 PM

I just clicked on Jared Padalecki. I got there from Real Life sub-page of Adorkable, which is now in TRS.

Well, it mostly deals with his life. I know very little of this man's work, so I'm probably not the right person for the clean-up, but it has to be done.

Anyone wants to be merciless? The page is quite extensive, so I see some fan-girls' hearts crushed.

edited 10th Apr '13 10:12:58 PM by XFllo

EditorPallMall Don't Fear the Spiders from United States, East Coast Since: Feb, 2013
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#17: Apr 10th 2013 at 10:18:14 PM

The deed is done. Claiming a real person to be "adorkable" is simply Gushing. Also there is no way a guy like him is a dork.

Keep it breezy!
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#18: Apr 10th 2013 at 11:03:31 PM

What I meant was that the whole page looks unsuitable for this wiki. Well, at least to me.

I think actors are supposed to have tropes like say Mr. Fanservice if the example states that he has a lots of Shirtless Scenes, particularly if they are gratuitous. Not "the female audience of this show considers him very attractive". What Beautiful Eyes! is ok if you make a point that it appears a lot in close-up shots in his films/TV shows, not to gush about a unique colour he happens to have.

I'm not very familiar with our policy on troping actors, but this whole page looks like nothing but extreme gushing.

I think Adorkable for now is allowed to have Real Life examples, but that may change soon.

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#19: Apr 11th 2013 at 1:14:26 PM

[up]I got rid of most of the tropes off of Jared Padalecki's page. Only two tropes now remain since they were referring to his roles; not his personal life.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#20: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:27:18 PM

[up] That is exactly what I though was needed, but felt uncomfortable doing it myself. Next time I won't be such a "wuss". Perhaps I would allow Tall, Dark, and Handsome with context that his roles have this treatment.

captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#21: Jul 24th 2013 at 7:57:10 AM

I think we gotta start changing the example header on these pages because "This actor/actress provides examples of:" is probably what's tripping people up. How about "Tropes frequently used for this actor/actress' roles"?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#22: Jul 24th 2013 at 7:59:08 AM

Yeah, seems like a good change. If it gets implemented, I would add it to Creator Page Guidelines too.

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#23: Jun 29th 2014 at 11:48:33 PM

[up][up] I agree with that as well. Maybe the new header could be something like:

"Here is a list of tropes associated with [insert name here]'s career as a [insert creator type here] and their works as a whole."

Also, I'm going to holler for the thread's title to be changed; because this problem is not limited to actors and actresses.

edited 30th Jun '14 7:30:12 PM by MacronNotes

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#24: Jun 30th 2014 at 7:33:09 PM

The name change is done.

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#25: Jul 8th 2014 at 5:06:38 PM

Thanks, Willbyr!

Anyway, can I get feedback on my trope header suggestion for the Creator pages?

Suggestion:

"Here is a list of tropes associated with [insert name here]'s career as a [insert creator type here] and their works as a whole."

edited 8th Jul '14 5:06:55 PM by MacronNotes

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