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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#1801: Sep 13th 2016 at 8:51:51 AM

Et Tu, Brute?

You of all people know very well that flipping a setting onto its head is my specialty.

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#1802: Sep 13th 2016 at 9:01:29 AM

[up]Yes, and "flipping the characters/Fandom-Specific Plot on its head" is something I try to do a lot as well.

The specific premise of "Sirius and Petunia in a Slap-Slap-Kiss relationship" still breaks my personal WSOD, though, regarding both characters - Sirius is a "freak", and Petunia's ugly on the outside and on the inside.

edited 13th Sep '16 9:02:35 AM by EvaUnit01

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#1803: Sep 13th 2016 at 11:07:41 AM

Oh, I have no intention of changing that part of her personality. And besides, this was only a passing fancy of an idea, not actually serious.


A more serious idea I had was Draco threatening to call up his father one too many times causes Harry to rhetorically ask if Draco ever achieved anything without his father beyond wiping his own ass after using the toilet. To this, Draco realizes that Harry is actually right and becomes thoughtful.

Years down the line, Draco turns down the opportunity to get a Dark Mark by claiming that he can spy better if he doesn't have a visible mark of allegiance on him. The excuse is accepted at the time... yet as soon as V goes down, Draco instantly backstabs Lucius and turns him over to the authorities, not to commit a Heel–Face Turn but to take over Lucius' web of contacts and bribed officials as the new Malfoy patriarch. Over the following years, he systematically takes over Wizarding Britain's criminal underworld and basically sets up the Wizarding Britain equivalent of the Italian Mafia. And since Draco has no intention of overthrowing the government (chaos would be bad for business, you see) unlike V, the authorities leave him alone for the most part because his presence in the criminal underworld keeps the really nasty stuff out of the country.

All because of one rhetorical question by Harry.

Which makes me wonder... considering how chronologically backwards the wizarding world is compared to muggle civilization, how much experience would wizarding law enforcement authorities realistically have with mafia-style organized crime instead of anarchists?

edited 13th Sep '16 11:11:40 AM by amitakartok

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#1804: Sep 13th 2016 at 2:07:26 PM

Actually, at least AFAIK, there are two kind of distinctive style of organized crime. The one is that organized crime that basically built to maintain status quo, keeping the "unworthy" downs, things like that. This kind of organized crime already practiced long time in Wizarding World, with basically everyone with old money and very little moral get involved. Although you can argue that it was less crime and more actually misuse of power.

The second is basically more like petty criminals getting their act together and unionizing, a Thieves' Guild style, if you will. Basically, all the petty criminals and/ or people on the lowest totem pole organizing themselves, and in most cases, their motivation is less about getting profit but more on survival. Packing together against bigger threat. The second one is actually more prominent in muggle world, with arguably more egalitarian rules and clearer chain of organization.

Basically, Draco's action can boil down on 2 things: Either pruning the 1st type of the more rotten, unacceptable bad apples to ensure the regime would keep their pressure down, or build the 2nd type to basically securing himself seat of power and protection while making himself looks good (more or less)

Also, Off Topic: Did you get the job?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#1805: Sep 13th 2016 at 2:40:53 PM

The line is drawn at plausibility. It doesn't matter how much the reader is willing to accept. Readers can and will accept bashing if it's of a character they don't like. What the average reader thinks of it does not give you a good idea of the work's quality.

Partially Kissed Hero, Chunin Exam Day, Twilight, Fifty Shades of Gray - all things that are ridiculously popular and whose average reader will give a glowing blowjob of a review to.

And they all share one thing in common.

They're garbage with very little, if any, in the way of redeeming value.

Which is why I draw the line at plausibility.

Sirius and Petunia getting together is simply not plausible unless the characters' natures are changed.

There's a difference between For Want Of A Nail and making arbitrary changes so your story can work. I very much like the former and enjoy it when there isn't In Spite of a Nail going on. I despise the latter because it's weak, cheap and lazy.

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#1806: Sep 14th 2016 at 1:48:49 PM

Years down the line, Draco turns down the opportunity to get a Dark Mark by claiming that he can spy better if he doesn't have a visible mark of allegiance on him.
I assume that Dark Marks can be concealed when needful, otherwise much of the conflict between Death Eaters and everyone else makes so much less sense. It's hard to maintain an atmosphere of paranoia and confusion when you can tell if someone's a magic neo-Nazi by looking at their arm.

Heck, Pettigrew had the Mark. It's how Voldemort summoned his followers after he got resurrected at the end of Goblet of Fire. If him having it didn't interfere with delivering the Potters to Voldemort - or with pinning the blame on the unmarked Sirius Black - I don't see how Malfoy's got a leg to stand on here.

Draco instantly backstabs Lucius
The Malfoys' love for each other is basically their only redeeming trait. Draco was willing to try and kill Albus "the only one he ever feared" Dumbledore to protect his parents. And you're positing that he toss that all away and throw his father to the dogs because Harry makes him think about how much help Lucius has given him?

edited 14th Sep '16 1:49:33 PM by rikalous

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#1807: Sep 14th 2016 at 2:06:41 PM

rikalous, you assume that the wizarding world would be smart enough to check people's arms.

Do remember: Voldemort has the support of the society's elite - he basically controls their equivalent of parliament through them.

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#1808: Sep 14th 2016 at 2:53:27 PM

Yes, I do assume they're that intelligent, because otherwise there's no fucking point in engaging with the setting.

And whatever control you think Voldemort had, it failed utterly at keeping ten of his best guys out of torture-prison, so I'm not seeing how it would protect anyone else from Crouch the elder going "behold the tattoo of evil!" and throwing away the key.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#1809: Sep 14th 2016 at 5:24:46 PM

To be fair, those guys weren't smart enough to say "yeah I was totally imperius'ed so don't give me the truth serum thingy okay?".

Also, wizards having no common sense's canon bro. Ask Hermione.

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#1810: Sep 14th 2016 at 5:30:19 PM

Alternatively, they were too prideful. Bellatrix would sooner cut her own heart out than deny that she was Voldemort's faithful servant.

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#1811: Dec 12th 2016 at 11:23:25 AM

So I read this fanfic based off a request from my friend and I... yeah...

It can go places, but the place it wants to go is snuggling with Asuna. Like, you can have Harry use Asuna as an outlet for his grief and develop a bond that will eventually be shattered or have Kayaba be involved and end up confronting Dumbledore... Sadly none of that happens.

However, it does give me an idea.

One night, out of nowhere, Garon, King of Nohr, rolls up at the Dursleys, fucks them up, snatches Harry with "YOU ARE MY CHILD NOW!" and takes him to his kingdom where he's raised by the Nohrs.

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#1813: Dec 19th 2016 at 5:20:00 AM

So, as EVA already know but not bother mentioning, I already join in SV and participate in Harry and The Shipgirls.

I got infected by battleship-based moe virus. No hope for me now.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#1814: Apr 25th 2017 at 6:54:55 AM

Found this on tumblr, but this is the A03 listing:

http://archiveofourown.org/works/10566861

What if there was nothing in the cupboard under the stairs but household items?

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1815: Apr 25th 2017 at 10:47:13 PM

That whole series looks interesting. *marks for later, adds to The List*

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#1816: Apr 25th 2017 at 11:41:27 PM

It's interesting but my problem is that they're basically just outlines rather than proper stories.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1817: Apr 25th 2017 at 11:43:05 PM

Aw. At least they'll be quick reads, then.

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#1818: Apr 25th 2017 at 11:47:22 PM

Yeah, that chapter there covers all seven books. It also focuses solely on Dudley so the changes brought about by Lilly and James being alive to raise Harry are not explored.

Of course, that's probably explored in many other fics but no idea if they're explored well.

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#1819: Apr 26th 2017 at 12:23:51 AM

I'd be interested in the exploration of Dudley and the Dursleys as a sociological investigation. They are somewhat broad steretypes, but they're alien to anyone who isn't British.

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ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#1820: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:11:24 AM

So, my Harry Potter fanfic is a bit of a doozy. It's basically a Darker and Edgier Deconstruction of the series as a whole—more specifically, the fragile nature of The Masquerade and the power disparity between Muggles and wizards. The premise is this:

Twenty years after the original books (and a year after the events of Cursed Child) it seems that the Wizarding World is finally becoming peaceful again, with the last vestiges of the Death Eaters having been defeated. But this is not so; a new organization called the Lethifold Society has arisen. Their goal is to bring down the Statute of Secrecy and create a world where wizards and Muggles can live together openly. Unfortunately, they promote this agenda by committing horrific acts of terrorism.

Harry, now working as an Auror, is requested by Hermione to investigate the Lethifold Society's activity in Britain, but as he does he grows suspicious that the Ministry of Magic knows more about the Lethifold Society than they are letting on, and decides to go "loose cannon" and find out the truth. It turns out that the Lethifold Society were behind a number of famous historical mysteries.

While all of this is taking place, Dudley Dursley—who, by this time, has joined the Royal Air Force and become a pilot— has transferred to the United States to train on the F-22 Raptor jet fighter. Once there, he finds out about Project Rorschach, a top-secret program based in Area 51 run by the American and British Muggle governments to weaponize magical creatures.

The shit really hits the fan when a mole from the Lethifold Society steals spores of a magical disease called Mortasheen from the Project Rorschach lab, and spreads the plague into a number of major cities around the world. Their ultimatum: unless the world's Muggle governments acknowledge the existence of magic, millions of people will die.

It's basically the Harry Potter equivalent of a James Bond movie.

edited 31st May '18 7:17:19 PM by ElSquibbonator

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#1821: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:20:48 AM

Cowboy Bebop?

edited 5th Sep '17 11:21:52 AM by TheHandle

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ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#1822: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:21:28 AM

What do you mean? If anything, I was inspired more by works like Neon Genesis Evangelion and Naru Taru.

edited 5th Sep '17 11:24:08 AM by ElSquibbonator

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#1823: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:22:17 AM

It's similar to the plot of the movie.

Also, isn't Dudley too stupid, spoiled, and fat to be a pilot?

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ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#1824: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:37:02 AM

In the early books, yes, he was fat and lazy, but we learn in Order of the Phoenix that he took up boxing and became an imposing, muscular thug who terrorized younger children. Then in Deathly Hallows, we find out that he's softened up slightly, since he tells Harry "I don't think you're a waste of space"—something he would never have said in the first book. I imagine that after the experience with the Dementor and then being told off by Dumbledore, the Dursleys might have decided to give Dudley some real discipline and so sent him to a boot camp/military academy, much to his initial displeasure.

As for my portrayal of him, I'm not going to try and fully redeem him. He did some nasty, unforgivable things to Harry that can't be glossed over. I won't be making him a hero, I'll only be making him an ally, someone Harry has to work together with, but isn't all that comfortable around for obvious reasons.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#1825: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:43:26 AM

I'll be happy if he acts like a Middle Class version of Lord Rust from Discworld.[lol]

Still, only the best of the very best become pilots. Unless the plot demands it, you should try to give him a support role, like engineer, mechanic, or some other kind of airman.

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