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DoubleG Since: Feb, 2011
#1: May 23rd 2012 at 6:46:44 PM

A fighter highly skilled in CQC and BJJ, because of his crude personality, usually gropes or grind against his opponent while getting them in awkward positions during submissions (he usually does this to throw them off guard and had admit to enjoy doing so) before breaking their arms and legs in many different angles or just simply knocking them unconscious. For a character archetype, I don't know what this would be.

And yes, he's a villain. A creepy one.

edited 24th May '12 5:32:22 AM by DoubleG

KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#2: May 23rd 2012 at 6:55:53 PM

The only thing that comes to mind is "violent sexual offender".

DoubleG Since: Feb, 2011
#3: May 23rd 2012 at 7:20:28 PM

That's practically a rapist.

MrMallard wak from Australia, mate Since: Oct, 2010
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#5: May 23rd 2012 at 7:42:30 PM

That sounds hilarious. Do it.

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BoundByTheMoon Kvltvre Vvltvre from The Spanish Sahara Since: Jun, 2010
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#6: May 23rd 2012 at 7:45:46 PM

[up]Because implied rape is hilarious, right?

If it suits him as a character (ie he's supposed to be a creepy sleazeball), go ahead. But keep in mind that that's pretty damn creepy, and it paints him as such for the reader.

edited 23rd May '12 7:46:39 PM by BoundByTheMoon

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MrMallard wak from Australia, mate Since: Oct, 2010
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#7: May 23rd 2012 at 7:48:24 PM

So grinding and groping your opponent before crippling them is implied rape? I thought of the character as a more brutal Voldo.

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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: May 23rd 2012 at 8:05:22 PM

@OP idea - Mother of God, it's like there's no filter...

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DerelictVessel Flying Dutchman from the Ocean Blue Since: May, 2012
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#9: May 23rd 2012 at 8:22:59 PM

Would this be an inappropriate style of combat?

Incredibly so, in fact.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#10: May 23rd 2012 at 8:31:15 PM

I think that actually depends on how you define 'inappropriate'. Certainly I wouldn't try to paint this character in any kind of positive light, but there's no reason why a villain shouldn't have a nasty fighting style.

DoubleG Since: Feb, 2011
#11: May 24th 2012 at 5:27:51 AM

Yes, he's a villain, and a creepy one at all. He's basically a more crude version of Travis Touchdown. Or Gauron. Or Voldo.

edited 24th May '12 5:35:00 AM by DoubleG

Natasel Since: Nov, 2010
#12: May 24th 2012 at 6:45:42 AM

Why do you need an inappropriate style of combat anyway?

A villain can be class or crude in combat, there's no rule saying that a bad guy can't be Wicked Cultured.

Besides, its not like the Villain will rip of the heads of his defeated foes and shit down their neck right?

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#13: May 24th 2012 at 8:35:36 AM

I think is pretty much like an adult version of a character of mine that I usually use on the "What would your character do in the above situation?" forum. He's basically a sociopath and probably he loves to torture people. My character does it because he has a weird kind of synesthesia that turns personalities, voice tones, scents, everything into a taste and a person getting freaked out, for him, tastes like red, juicy apples.

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#14: May 24th 2012 at 12:58:44 PM

As above tropers have said, it's definitely got some disturbing, and effective characterization potential, but as a combat style it may leave some severe gaps in their defense.

This is not a bad thing- portraying them as someone who lets their desires rule them in such a way, making their combat style less effective in the process, and (perhaps) still being competent despite it, is a completely valid characterization.

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Akagikiba2 Scallywag from The TV Tropes Forums Since: May, 2012
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#15: May 24th 2012 at 1:47:43 PM

A fighter highly skilled in CQC and BJJ, because of his crude personality, usually gropes or grind against his opponent while getting them in awkward positions during submissions (he usually does this to throw them off guard and had admit to enjoy doing so) before breaking their arms and legs in many different angles or just simply knocking them unconscious. For a character archetype, I don't know what this would be.

And yes, he's a villain. A creepy one.

You answered your own question in your OP. Yes, he's inappropriate. Why else would you call him "creepy"?

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#16: May 24th 2012 at 2:14:56 PM

This is not a bad thing- portraying them as someone who lets their desires rule them in such a way, making their combat style less effective in the process, and (perhaps) still being competent despite it, is a completely valid characterization.

Alternatively, it could just be a measure of their confidence in their abilities and their disdain for their opponent.

You know how they say that rape is about power and intimidation, right? Intense sexual harassment runs down the same lines.

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AtomJames I need a drink Since: Apr, 2010
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#17: May 24th 2012 at 5:38:49 PM

It would look something like this

Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.
SuperHeroineAddict freakin' metal Since: Nov, 2011
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#18: May 24th 2012 at 7:41:18 PM

And now I must coin the term "gropler". A portmanteau of "grope" and "grappler".

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NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#19: May 24th 2012 at 10:26:23 PM

I have a villain like that too.

Hector Gibbs is his name. He does it to just about everyone from his victims to Matthew, Sorata, or even Angie...

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#20: May 25th 2012 at 10:41:26 AM

I can't imagine this being a useful 'style of combat'. More like a quick, cheap way to get a vasectomy.

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Natasel Since: Nov, 2010
#21: May 26th 2012 at 12:07:05 AM

Maybe this style is just Powered By Perversion.

Just like Tiger Kung Fu is supposed to be all about Aggression, Drunken Master is Confusion and Judo is about Redirection, this style may capitalize on a person's high Libido in place of hostile feelings.

Because realistically, a person can be horny pretty often. Being angry all the time is a bit harder to handdle.

A teenage omni-sexual could be a terror with this style.

edited 26th May '12 1:33:20 AM by Natasel

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#22: May 26th 2012 at 12:14:53 AM

@Double G: I find it amusing that you described this character as like "a more inappropriate version" of Gauron. Really, can you get more inappropriate than Gauron...?

(OK, the answer is always "yes." But that doesn't make it any less extreme a choice of comparison.)

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Jun 5th 2012 at 3:10:48 AM

I can so see this guy being the Camp Gay.

peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#24: Jun 5th 2012 at 3:28:42 AM

@20 ...vasectomy?!? Perhaps if your world has FATAL rules for combat or something?

@OP: inapproppriate? That depends entirely on the setting. In our world? Well you have a choir chanting "yes it is" right here. In some other world... I can easily think of a macho culture where you simply didn't win the fight until you've disminished your opponent's manhood and pride by groping and dry-humping them like he was your, eh, bitch.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#25: Jun 6th 2012 at 9:13:58 PM

@ Natasel: Which is what Hector Gibbs is. 19 years old, and he's flirted with / made moves on a pre-op M 2 F Transexual, a pre-op F 2 M Transexual, boys, girls, absurdly human robots, homunculi, ghouls, vampires, crystalline energy constructs, statues, demi-gods, "Chaos" Markhene, and others.

And, with this kind of fighting style, he successfully defeats most of the above.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:15:46 PM by NickTheSwing

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