Real Life section maintenance (New Crowner 7th May 2015):

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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.

Common problems include:

Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.

If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.

edited 10th Nov '14 7:30:06 AM by SeptimusHeap

1001 SeptimusHeap14th Dec 2012 08:57:11 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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On it. Eta: Done. Wall of Text now resides on the Analysis page.

About the example: If someone can cite that stewardesses are picked for they sexy appeal then that example can stay.

edited 14th Dec '12 9:00:35 AM by SeptimusHeap

1002 AnotherDuck14th Dec 2012 08:57:50 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
Well, I don't really care if it stays or goes, but it's still one purpose of it, even if there are other more important purposes alongside it.
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1003 Fighteer14th Dec 2012 09:00:45 AM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
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A simple sentence stating that in Real Life, stewardesses were chosen for being slim, young, and fit, and this may have contributed to the notion that they were intended to be seen as sexy, would suffice. As for Real Life examples, it would only be valid if there is proof, not just speculation, that stewardesses on a particular airline are chosen specifically for sex appeal.

Edit: Never mind, it seems that the description does summarize the analysis bit. Good work.

edited 14th Dec '12 9:02:24 AM by Fighteer

1004 desdendelle16th Dec 2012 03:42:43 PM from that place , Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Tenno SKOOM!
It seems that we need a new crowner.
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1005 Nohbody16th Dec 2012 04:36:25 PM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
^ Not really. There haven't been any new nominations added to the crowner recently, and there's not so many on there now that a new one would be drowning in a sea of strikethrough.
1006 SeptimusHeap22nd Dec 2012 11:22:24 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Delusions of Eloquence. The Barack Obama example on Delusions Of Eloquence Discussion seems to be particularly problematic, and I feel it's not an exception.
1007 deathpigeon22nd Dec 2012 01:13:47 PM from Everything sacred is a tie, a fetter. , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Definitely should get its Real Life section excised.
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1008 AnotherDuck22nd Dec 2012 05:52:34 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I don't think it's categorically bad, but some of the examples are probably wrong, as they are more about plain errors like misspeaking or singular instances. I'd prefer just cleaning it a little before deciding to purge.

Also, I liked the edit reason for re-adding that Barack example before it was deleted again: "anti-free-speech troll vandalized previous edit". That just tells me the example probably shouldn't be there. If the example fits, it fits without all sinkholes.
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1009 nrjxll22nd Dec 2012 06:49:13 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
Potentially insulting trope being applied to real life people, including politicians?

Fire up the chainsaw, boys.
1010 AnotherDuck22nd Dec 2012 07:22:40 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
[up]I cleaned it, so no more politicians, because those were misuse. Don King is the only named person left, actually, and then only as a presented persona, rather than his actual person. And since it's actually verifiable, it's no more insulting than the related Malaproper. It's not a subjective value we throw on people, or a psychological analysis, but just taking what they say at face value.

[down]Good point.

edited 22nd Dec '12 8:28:52 PM by AnotherDuck

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1011 nrjxll22nd Dec 2012 07:33:07 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
[up]I don't think presented personas should actually be in the real life section.
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[up] Agreed.
1013 deathpigeon22nd Dec 2012 08:11:44 PM from Everything sacred is a tie, a fetter. , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
The trope is insulting to the person it describes. We should not be in the business of insulting people here on TvTropes.
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1014 AnotherDuck22nd Dec 2012 08:29:35 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
[up]Not if someone uses it deliberately.
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1015 deathpigeon22nd Dec 2012 09:10:52 PM from Everything sacred is a tie, a fetter. , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
It wouldn't fit the trope if it was deliberate. The trope is someone who thinks he or she is sounding smart and eloquent by using big words, but isn't because he or she is using them incorrectly or messing them up. If the person is doing this deliberately, then he or she does not think he or she is sounding smart or eloquent, and, thus, does not fit the trope.
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1016 AnotherDuck22nd Dec 2012 09:50:22 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
It's not a straight example, no, but it can be some other way to play with it. Parody, invoking, lampshading...
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Definitely not a weirdo
Anyway, I just added Evil Chancellor to the crowner. It's another evil trope, so there really shouldn't be that much debate.
Added Delusions of Eloquence to the crowner.
1019 desdendelle24th Dec 2012 12:29:09 PM from that place , Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Tenno SKOOM!
Wait. If we're categorically against calling RL people evil, why not just make the whole evil tropes index NRELP! by default?
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Most of the Real Life section of The Not Secret is actually about Open Secret. The Not Secret is supposed to be when those keeping the secret think it is a well-kept secret.

edited 28th Dec '12 4:25:50 PM by Lophotrochozoa

1021 Nohbody28th Dec 2012 08:45:06 PM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Calling Evil Chancellor - Added 23rd Dec '12 at 01:33:42 AM, 23:0
Seeking for Light
[up][up] If it's misuse, you can just cut it/move it to the proper page. That's just basic cleaning and doesn't require consensus from the thread.
1023 Nohbody29th Dec 2012 04:07:23 AM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Calling Delusions of Eloquence - Added 24th Dec '12 at 12:26:03 PM, 2.67 (8y/3n)
1024 wuggles1st Jan 2013 09:51:01 PM from Miami, FL , Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
1025 SeptimusHeap2nd Jan 2013 01:41:41 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
That is not Thread Mode, just bad Example Indentation.

Page Action: Real Life Section Maintenance 32
7th May '15 8:48:32 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
These are pages that have been proposed to have their Real Life sections cut and tagged to not be recreated.

Vote UP to indicate you think the Page should have NO Real Life examples.

Vote DOWN to allow Real Life examples.

Items that have been stricken (like so) have already been decided, with ten or more total votes, more than 48 hours on the crowner, and are stable with at least a 2:1 yes/no ratio. No further voting is needed on those items.

To check if something has already been voted on, please see Keep Real Life Examples.

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