Fifty Shades of Grey:

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AKA The "erotic" BDSM Twilight Fanfiction that is now a New York Times Bestseller and receiver of a movie deal.

So if anyone needs me, I'll be hanging myself.
I only heard about this book because of today's Cracked article. What bullshit.
3 MistressofCeremonies21st Apr 2012 12:44:23 PM from South Florida , Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Ringmaster of the Circus
My friend passed the news about this information onto me.

Now I haven't read it and if anyone comes into this thread has and wants to talk about that, I'll gladly cede the floor to them but I have a question I've been thinking about that is tangentially connected to this book.

If this book does well and the movie plans really continue to go forward, what impact do you think this will have on fandom in general? Because, really, the thing that, in my humble assessment of the situation, that has been preventing fandoms from getting quashed by the copyright holders is that we're not making any real money off of these things. That, for the most part, if someone wants to buy a print of a fanart off DeviantArt or whatever, it's not really a life-sustainable amount of money.

But if this book picks up a lot of revenue and Stephanie Meyer decides to make it a big deal that it was primarily written as a Twilight fan-fiction (with some people and websites claiming that the new "novellized" text is 88% identical to the fanfiction, most of the changes being in character descriptions and character names), does anyone think it would have a larger effect on the relationship between fandoms and creators in general?
"I will flip a shit if it ends up being like anything I imagined. I will become a shit-juggler-extraordinaire, so many shits will I flip"
Io vs Jupiter
Man, I thought this thread was going to be about Shades of Grey, the Jasper Fforde novel.

I am disappoint.
5 Yuanchosaan21st Apr 2012 08:40:51 PM from Australia , Relationship Status:
antic disposition
^Same here. At least it reminded me to put the book on my to-read shelf in Goodbooks.
"Doctor Who means never having to say you're kidding." - Bocaj
6 LoniJay22nd Apr 2012 02:04:43 AM from Australia , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
How easy is it to tell if a story has been first written as a fanfic?
Be not afraid...
Her with the hat
[up]Depends on the story.

When it comes to this particular one, I'm told that it's very easy to tell, since it's apparently mostly a find-and-replace copy of a fanfic that was apparently very well-known and popular.
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8 Morven25th Apr 2012 12:49:28 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
But that only works because the fanfic was successful and well-known, surely?
A brighter future for a darker age.
Islam lym Al-Ḥaqq.
Reasons why I hate this.

1. It's based off of Twilight, the crowner in the most exploitative, schlock filled, poorly written rag ever put to print unironically.

2. It's fanfiction, which both denies the spirit of fanfiction and is borderline plagiarism.

3. James' refusal to admit its fanction, the bitch Orwellian Edited all mention of it as such she could and is ranting on Wendy Williams about how it "inspired" her.

4. It's SUPER exploitative. It takes all the horrendous aspects of Twilight and magnifies them a thousand fold through a bullshit lense of Topless Robot caliber BDSM. It is quit literally Twilight on Drugs and it makes it PAINFUL.

5. It's successful. its a New York Times bestsller and its getting a movie???! To quote Peter Griffin. "That happened, and we let it happen."
My PM System is turned off so please dont send any to me.
Not Quite Batman
I, too, came in expecting Jasper Fforde. His book is quite something, in a great way. Le sigh. But anyway... at the very least, we got a hilarious Cracked article out of it.
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11 PippingFool26th Apr 2012 05:35:07 AM from Grim Reaper Dispatch , Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
May I have a link to said article?
I still have imaginary friends; they're just called "original characters" now and I can keep writing stories about them - Tuckerscreator
12 Andygal1st May 2012 01:30:47 AM , Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Let's just pretend this is about Jasper Fforde.
13 Yuanchosaan1st May 2012 03:04:53 AM from Australia , Relationship Status:
antic disposition
^Agreed. So, what's Shades of Grey like compared to the Thursday Next books?
"Doctor Who means never having to say you're kidding." - Bocaj
14 Andygal2nd May 2012 12:07:53 AM , Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
I dunno, haven't read TN, really must though.
15 TamH702nd May 2012 08:25:08 AM from 合計虐殺 , Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
War ALWAYS changes. Man does not.
You asked for the article on Cracked? Feast your eyes if you dare.
16 Laura2nd May 2012 10:56:31 PM from Shintolin , Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
I liked Shades of Grey. I'm not quite sure why everyone has tiny pupils and barcodes growing out of their fingernails, but eh. It's fine.
He's the Doctor. He could be anywhere in time and space.
Still Forecharmer
I work in a public library, and any book we carry that has a title with the words, "grey" or "shades" in it now has a very long request list. tongue If you don't like like the book, then don't worry, it will fade into obscurity soon enough. Just let the people have their fun. I know many of my co-workers say they want to read the book just for kicks. I guess it's kind of like Jersey Shore, if you're in a critical mood you want something to laugh at.

And at least the fans of 50 Shades aren't as obsessed at Twilight's fans were at their peak.
Wizard Basement

Yeah but mommy porn as they're calling it has a different fanbase to tween girls who want a sparkly vampire and werewolf hunk to enslave to their whims, the obsessive fangirling comes from the audience... and the monster fetishising.

Can't wait till we see paranormal romance between monsters of the same species... but different eras?

"He was an Egyptian magician aching for love, she was a bonneted Regency gal who died before her time... can love that blossoms between two ghosts last?"

I'd read the shit out of that.
Hell Hasn't Earned My Tears
19 ithinkabouttrees26th Jun 2012 12:18:02 PM from A dark and damp place
Carrier of Pigeons
I read 50 Shades just to see if there was ANYTHING redeeming about it.

I'll just leave at this; it's based off of a Twilight fan fiction, so it reads like one.
ADHD? Bitch please, those are battle instincts!
20 Masterofchaos26th Jun 2012 01:56:10 PM , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Last icon didn't suit me lol
I heard about it on Tumblr. (Someone posted an excerpt) I read it out of curiosity and...


I still have no idea what happened. ._.

edited 26th Jun '12 1:57:09 PM by Masterofchaos

21 Morven27th Jun 2012 01:23:06 AM from Seattle, WA, USA
I'm kind of concerned that it's both an example of an even more dysfunctional relationship than Twilight, and will encourage people to try out BDSM play without any safety tips ('cause they sure as hell don't use any precautions here).
A brighter future for a darker age.
22 MrAHR27th Jun 2012 08:32:38 AM from ಠ_ಠ , Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
Eh, I think the world needs more mainstream erotica for women. It's shittily written, yeah, but I can't really hate the book for it.
23 wuggles27th Jun 2012 09:11:50 AM from Miami, FL , Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
I don't know that it'll cause dysfunctional relationships. Anybody who bases their relationship expectations off of a BDSM erotica book has some serious problems already. Isn't erotica known for being kind of out there in terms of relationship expectations? Also, I doubt this is the worst erotica book ever, this one just became popular. On another note, has anyone heard that they're making a movie? I'm trying to figure out how they can make a mainstream theatrical feature about a porno.

edited 27th Jun '12 9:12:52 AM by wuggles

24 ithinkabouttrees27th Jun 2012 10:38:57 PM from A dark and damp place
Carrier of Pigeons

You'd be surprised at what a number Twilight did to a lot of my friends relationships. Now. As in grown friends who are in college and are somewhat mature enough to be in serious relationships. The problem with books like this is that they portray these kinds of relationships in a light that makes it seem achievable.
ADHD? Bitch please, those are battle instincts!
25 TamH701st Jul 2012 04:06:10 PM from 合計虐殺 , Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
War ALWAYS changes. Man does not.
If you are looking for erotica written for the female of the species there is a publishing house that has been doing it for over 15 years.

Black Lace Books they are called. I have read a few and I am not a female.

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