The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

As I recall one of the girls was deemed too loli.

This is correct. It was something that the voters did struggle with.

I've sent up a flag for some of the material on the trope page for Lover and Beloved, for whoever winds up being appointed to deal with this sort of thing. There is value in having a page for this with examples of the cliché in question, but it's a bit of a minefield for obvious reasons and some of the example descriptions are concerning.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.

If the trope is good, then just clean up examples that you can find specific problems with.

The main thing with that trope is definitely the level of description. Several of the examples bring up specific sexual acts involving minors for works that don't even have pages on the site (possibly for good reason).

edited 5th Jul '16 4:59:08 PM by Assassin-sensei

"A buddy is a buddy no matter how nutty."

Definitely. The guidelines are pretty clear on the 'no graphic descriptions' when a trope example is taken from a P5'd work.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett

& Exactly my issue here. Not sure where I would even begin with some of these, though. >->

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.

Bring it up in this thread, which is tailor made for this kind of thing.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)

I would like 100% confirmation that a page on Cream Lemon is O.K.

I'm not confident you'll get that confirmation. On top of it being hentai and some of the episodes having excuse plots to get to the sex, there are girls as young as eleven in graphic sex scenes in the original OVAs.

A specific page for the non-pornographic entries only (Cream Lemon: New Generation, the new live-action, and the Lemon Angel shorts) might be fine in my opinion. (Keep in mind this is only my opinion, and I'm not officially part of the P5 - we currently have only one active member. Some others' input on this would be great.)

edited 15th Jul '16 9:49:27 PM by Assassin-sensei

"A buddy is a buddy no matter how nutty."

Agreed.

The third Cream Lemon series did ended up getting rebranded as a movie and made mainstream though, it's called Project A Ko.

edited 15th Jul '16 10:07:37 PM by Memers

Hmmm...I didn't know about the loli thing. Most of the episodes have actual plots, though. There's a lot more to it than just sexy stuff.

doesn't matter, if there's loli sex in it treated as titillation, it's a NO.

edited 19th Jul '16 8:33:47 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

Keeper of The Celestial Flame

It's historically significant, but part of why it's historically significant is that it skirted Japanese censorship laws by using the loopholes against themselves, and that's really dodgy territory. Just because something has academic interest doesn't mean it's appropriate for this venue.

I mean, hell, I was briefly tempted to argue on behalf of Urotsukidouji because it's too bizarre and surreal for its wall-to-wall depravity to be remotely titillating, at least in my view, but that's the thing: It's so dense with it that, even if it's not technically meant to be arousing, it's still far too much to have on here, and trying to describe it politely would be a fool's errand.

Cream Lemon is that from the other end: Generally regarded as surprisingly tasteful and well-directed, and certainly of archival value, but also very clearly pornography and, given its subject matter, of debatable legality in quite a few countries. So it's a "no."

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.

@12060 Bleached Underpants is a universally applicable allowance.

This is true. Project A Ko would be safe.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.

Too bad. It's a classic.

Is there any real reason why CaptainGerBear is kept up? I cannot find any evidence from his page that he's anything more than a porn artist.

His werewolf comic was reviewed and found passable on sex/plot ratio. The videogame, being on Steam, shouldn't hit the red flag either.

However outside of those works, all his page has is detailing stuff about porn he draws.

Yeah, his creator article is definitely porn-focused. Should be cleaned at the bare minimum (though after cleaning there wouldn't be much left).

"A buddy is a buddy no matter how nutty."

O hey, new stuff on the queue

• Jimmy Savile Reason: There is literally no reason why this "man" needs a TV Tropes page.

Yeah that one's dumb report.

• The Rock Cocks Reason: IDK whether or not this comic should have a works page seeing as it's severely NSFW, but Oglaf has one to, and I can see similar logic being applied. Though the images used for the character pages are inappropriate for the site and that's why this report is being sent.

Welll then, that looks like actual P5 material.
Although judging the comic itself would require a functional team, the page images and links definitely could use some cleaning. Naked asses are all over the place and one has breasts with nipples showing. Tumblr linked on the page includes straight-up NSF Wness without any warning screen.

Savile's page had the most controversial aspects removed IIRC, but I can take or leave it as a whole.

I posted in the P5 cleanup thread already, but the NSFW character pics and Tumblr link for The Rock Cocks need to be stripped. The comic itself doesn't have the fundamental comedy aspects that keep Oglaf...not sure if it's worth keeping around.

Remember back when I said there was a work I didn't want to flag because there might not be enough people around to handle it? The Rock Cocks was that work. Guess someone else saw it and flagged it.

The same point applies; flagged or not, there's still no P5 to vote on it.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)

Well it's different in nature from Oglaf - rather than random shoot-offs of comedy, it looks like Slice of Life stuff and them managing the workings of their band and stuff. Does seem enough material outside of the sex.

(Btw, the page listing marks sfw/nsfw pages and the split is about 50%)

• The Phoenix Of The Wasteland
  • Reason: Sorry for the double but I forgot the check the content policy button. I think this needs a 5P eval based on the example in YMMV. Just because she is a Funny Animal doesn't change the fact that the example mentions a 6 year old being tortured and raped.

Oh boy that looks like a doozy. Although, what YMMV page? Ahh, seems like it got cut.