OK, how to do this? We currently have Swords Are Heroic in YKTTW, and speaking strictly for myself, it's in more than ready for launch - it's in much better shape now than many launched articles have ever been: a good, clear description that elaborates the trope, and lots of quality examples. It also has four hats.
On the other hand, the crowner here pretty much calls for Heroes Prefer Swords, but switching trope name would also mean a lot of work adapting our current description and examples to the differences between the two tropes.
Hm? All we need to do is blank Heroes Prefer Swords as it is and copy paste the source of the YKTTW on the blanked page. And then clean the wicks.
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Ravenous Sophovore
Calling crowner in favor of Heroes Prefer Swords.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.YKTTW launched. Content of Heroes Prefer Swords replaced. Swords Are Heroic has been made a redirect. Note on the discussion page made.
Next up is wick cleanup.
Also, we need to check if the quotes, laconic and Playing With entries correspond to the new page.
edited 16th Jul '12 2:55:06 PM by lu127
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Ravenous Sophovore
Could really use name suggestions on the YKTTW
here. None of the names on the crowner are particularly popular.
The Final ECW Champion
I wish I had stayed with this conversation. But don't take my word for it, look at the page! We had a trope about "heroic" character using swords when it made little sense too and now we have a page that does not resemble it in the slightest due to a completely imagined case of misuse.
This new page is so unlike the old one that hardly any of the old examples even fit anymore. If you all wanted a new trope page why not make a new one and leave the perfectly serviceable one alone? Take Hollywood tactics.
No really, I motion to change this page back to the way it was before. Rename it maybe, this new trope page can keep its name but it is not an adequate replacement. The repair shop just broke something that did not need fixing. The point of heroes prefer swords was that the weapons is so romanticized and overused in fiction it keeps getting used in ways it really shouldn't be because of its traditional use by heroes.
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(she/her)
So, the next thing is to do is to clean up the wicks for Heroes Prefer Swords and check the subpages, right? Also, are we still waiting for this YKTTW?
edited 5th Feb '13 10:38:11 AM by MacronNotes
Macron's notes
Yeah, basically.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Started with A-B. Now did A-D.
Did E-F as well.
Did G-J.
K-M now done.
N-Q done.
Now T. R-S too.
Done with U-Z.
edited 11th Feb '13 9:42:45 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Bumping this. Can we get help on the YKTTW?
OK. Since the YKTTW isn't moving in terms of name-choosing, I'll ask for its crowner to be attached here so that it can be resolved.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Hi
Crowners are swapped. I added Potent Antique Weapon to the crowner...a lot of these titles are really clunky.
edited 25th May '13 7:06:31 AM by Willbyr
Bumping this. Shall we call this.
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I'd be inclined to call. Also, any objections to me taking over the YKTTW and finishing it?
You'll need to get this thing called first.
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Not so much talking about the title as I am the text and examples.
edited 19th Jun '13 9:58:15 AM by StarSword
Yeah, you can do so.
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Captain of USS Bajor
Ok, I rolled in the examples and added a page picture and quote.
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Calling the crowner, although it could be argued that there's not a clear consensus, since Archaic Weapon for an Advanced Age has a higher total number of votes at +7 (yeas:13 nays:7) but a lower ratio of approval, at 2.00 : 1 than the next highest, Still Using Swords, at +4 (yeas:7 nays:3) but an approval ratio of 2.33 : 1.
I'm going to make an admin-decision and say "Archaic Weapon for an Advanced Age wins.
Go ahead and make the changes in the wiki; I've locked the crowner and starred the thread.
edited 21st Jun '13 1:59:04 PM by Madrugada
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Huh? Did someone accidentally lock the thread?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Yeah, Oooops. I've resurrected it from the morgue. It was beating on the inside of the refrigerator door and screaming, poor thing...
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So that's why it's so cold here...
Anyhow, the only thing left is launching, crossreferencing and crosswicking the YKTTW under the name selected by the crowner. I'll do that tomorrow, too.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Captain of USS Bajor
Actually, is it all right if I go ahead and do it?
Yes. Remember to add a note on the discussion page of Heroes Prefer Swords that this thread changed its definition.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lu127 took the lead for a while, but haven't done anything yet, and most of the discussion has been here for a while. I prefer to not do any editing of anyone else's YKTTW, I think it's better to have a clear lead in making those changes.
Yeah, the description could be improved and could be made more TV Tropey, but I think it's an improvement over the old one. And what it shows is a basic of the historical background of why swords are considered heroic. Or is it anything in particular you're thinking about?