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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#1: Jan 26th 2012 at 12:26:58 PM

Something is off about this trope. I don't know what, but with a name that broad, and a description that's somewhat vague, it should be drowning in many, many more examples.

What is up here? I can see three possibilities:

1. Needs Wiki Love: simply put, it's a broad trope that needs more examples.
2. Too narrow: The definition is much narrower than the name implies. In this case it needs either a rename or a redefinition.
3. Too broad: The definition is very broad, broad enough that it could be a supertrope or index.

edited 26th Jan '12 12:29:25 PM by ArcadesSabboth

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#2: Jan 26th 2012 at 12:33:08 PM

It's a very broad trope, but that's okay — it's a very broad concept. The only thing I can think to do with this, besides general Wiki Magic, is rename it to The Adventure instead of just "adventure" in order to bring it into line with our general naming scheme, but I'm not sure if that's justified or not.

It could also probably use some subtropes, but I'm not sure if they already exist or what they would be.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Jan 26th 2012 at 2:00:54 PM

It's not a trope, it's a genre. I suggest we handle it like other genre pages, and list subgenres on that page.

edited 26th Jan '12 2:02:31 PM by ccoa

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#4: Jan 26th 2012 at 2:12:00 PM

...huh, so it is. I thought it was a trope, like The Quest. Could use some tweaks to make that more clear.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Jan 26th 2012 at 2:21:36 PM

It says genre in the second sentence, actually, but I suppose we could move it to the first? EDIT: Any more clear, or do we need a more substantial re-write?

Anyway, according to Literature Genres, these are subgenres of Adventure:

There are probably others.

We should probably mention that Adventure frequently overlaps with just about every genre out there other than Horror.

edited 26th Jan '12 2:24:17 PM by ccoa

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#6: Jan 26th 2012 at 2:43:34 PM

That should be including Horror. Anita Blake, the Sookie Stackhouse Series, Dead Space...

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#7: Jan 26th 2012 at 3:02:23 PM

Robinsonade would also be a subgenre, though it's not limited to literature.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Jan 26th 2012 at 3:03:27 PM

Adventure isn't meant to be only the literature genre. It's categorized as a Fiction genre, it seems.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#9: Feb 2nd 2012 at 11:36:36 AM

I agree with the idea of listing subgenres on the Adventure page. Are there any others that anyone can think of aside from the ones that ccoa and Meta Four mentioned?

I guess the only other main question I have about Adventure's page concerns the lines "Adventure stories feature relatively flat characters who undergo risk and danger" and "Morality is often very black and white, plots very linear." I think the latter part of the description seems okay since it uses the qualifier "often," but I wonder if saying that adventure stories feature relatively flat characters may interfere with the neutrality of the page.

I am also not really sure if either of claims are necessarily true, but I am not really an expert on this genre, so I might just be missing something.

Also, would it be alright to snip the part of the description that mentions Hollywood's treatment of Jules Verne novels? I feel like it might be a bit out of place there.

edited 2nd Feb '12 11:37:42 AM by LouieW

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Feb 3rd 2012 at 7:49:09 AM

A flat character is not automatically a bad thing, you know.

I'll add those subgenres now.

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