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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#15452: Apr 8th 2016 at 10:04:39 PM

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I always liked that speech. Especially the last part.

One Strip! One Strip!
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#15453: Apr 9th 2016 at 6:09:50 PM

Fate Hollow Order continues to update.

Karna and Shielder's relationship is breaking down horribly due to his Brutal Honesty and Shielder's pride, while the fic's version of the Servant Interlude miniquests for Saber begins now that he revealed his identity as Yamato-no-Orochi.

Kind of amusing how despite having basically the most "evil" of all the summoned Servants Saber is the Servant Shielder has the best relationship with, with Medea probably second best.

The newly summoned Dracula and Anderson have finished their introductions and are working on preparing Anderson's Noble Phantasm. And Anderson finally breaks Shielder's record of summoning villains/anti-heroes.

Medea's gotten a bit more trust from the Chaldea staff, finally being allowed to leave her room instead of being kept locked up because people keep taking the wrong lesson from her legend.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15454: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:13:18 PM

Uh... I'm fairly sure that Anderson qualifies as an Anti-Villain, because he kind of was on the True Final Boss' side in CCC. Sure, he's not exactly evil, but he's definitely not a good person. He had no real problem helping his master shove the planet into her vagina in CCC. He's kind of a Punch-Clock Villain. Also a sarcastic dick (which makes him freaking hilarious. He even manages to mouth off to Gilgamesh without dying instantly).

And yes, that is a thing that actually happens in CCC. It's hilariously stupid.

edited 9th Apr '16 7:14:24 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#15455: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:18:38 PM

Yeah, there he probably counts as one but I meant more from the perspective of their legend/myth than from their role in any Fate work.

edited 9th Apr '16 7:18:54 PM by doineedaname

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15456: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:52:46 PM

Have you actually read the stuff he wrote, and not the sanitized Disney versions?

'Cause there's a reason Nursery Rhyme takes offense to him.

He might've been a sarcastic dick in real life too.

edited 9th Apr '16 7:53:23 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#15457: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:14:54 PM

There was actually a scene of him reading to at least one of the Disney version (or at least a fanfic of them) of the Little Mermaid. He was...pretty annoyed.

Being a sarcastic dick isn't really that bad relatively, it's still a step down from how most of the others are portrayed by their myths.

edited 9th Apr '16 8:15:20 PM by doineedaname

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15458: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:36:59 PM

It'd probably be enough to qualify him for anti-hero, wouldn't it?

Though teaching lessons to children is a good thing.

It's fun to think that the version with the little mermaid melting is actually better for children than the one with the happily ever after ending, because the former tells children not to be stupid, reckless or what have you or they'll have to suffer the consequences, while the latter tells them to do it, it'll be okay because the problem will be fixed anyway.

To me, the best example of this is Hansel and Gretel. When they get eaten, the story is a cautionary tale. If they escape, then it isn't.

In other words, a boombox is not a toy, listen to Julian Casablancas.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#15459: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:41:09 PM

Andersen's version teaches you you are born without a soul if you are born different, though, and then you have to work your ass off for Heaven to accept you even if you were a good person beforehand. Which is all sorts of fucked up a moral and personally I find more offensive than anything the Disney version did.

By the way, the only reason the Ugly Duckling got a happy ending? Birth 'right', since if he'd been just the same character undergoing the same circumstances but just happened to be an actual ugly duck he'd have ended up fucked instead of praised by everyone.

I don't like Andersen's views on how being born one way or another makes you more or less entitled, that's all I'm saying.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15460: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:48:03 PM

Which only supports my argument of him being a dick.

When I talk about the lessons they impart, I'm just making a joke about Disney's movies betraying the lesson they're supposed to teach. Also goddammit I was saying 'Anderson' wasn't I? I actually have him in my FGO caster Party (because he's awesome despite being a bronze servant, since he's a buffbot so his stats don't matter in the least), I shouldn't be making this mistake.

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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#15462: Apr 10th 2016 at 9:18:27 AM

WHAT

WHAT

...Hey, SCM, did, did you... tag...EVA Unit with... something?

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#15464: Apr 10th 2016 at 4:52:16 PM

Unit's existence seems to have become antithetical from my, so he might have reached my insanity by going the long way around from the other side of the universe.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#15465: Apr 11th 2016 at 2:24:18 AM

Oh, so it's (mostly?) Played for Laughs? Not meant to offend you, but I think you prefer more... burning things, either in temperament or hairdo. Yes, I know, bad pun. Sorry. I certainly didn't expect you to make something more... cracky. Not to said you're awful, but, well, it's like seeing Joss Whedon directing My Little Pony feature film.

All in all, uh, sorry if I'm offend you.

unlikelyauthor from the forge Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#15466: Apr 11th 2016 at 6:05:19 AM

[up]not going to lie that sounds funny as hell

Fate Grand Order players will know me as Ryusei-Go.
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#15467: Apr 11th 2016 at 6:41:48 AM

The Pony franchise can get rather dark at times (mostly G1) and Whedon can do relatively light (Avengers), so it's not THAT far-fetched.

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#15468: Apr 11th 2016 at 7:21:55 AM

Oh, so it's (mostly?) Played for Laughs?
Well, it's certainly intended to edge more toward "Silly" than "Serious"...

I certainly didn't expect you to make something more... cracky.
Actually, that's not terribly new. There's a history of it over the years.

I've pretty much written for (or attempted to write for) every genre I can think of except for "slasher film" and those tangentially related to it.

EDIT: Actually, come to think of it, I haven't written for "gangster", "western", "soap opera", "mon", or "kaiju" yet.

Although the middle of those is one that I'm not even interested in.

edited 11th Apr '16 8:31:11 AM by EvaUnit01

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#15469: Apr 11th 2016 at 8:59:43 AM

I look forward to your story and/or quest about Wild West gangsters raising kaiju for battle.

Edit: Actually, you've totally written mon stuff. That's basically what the Fate series is.

edited 11th Apr '16 9:01:24 AM by rikalous

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#15470: Apr 11th 2016 at 10:39:02 AM

I look forward to your story and/or quest about Wild West gangsters raising kaiju for battle.
[lol]

I actually do have "Godzilla vs Junior" as a story I want to write sometime in the future, but I need to watch the rest of the Heisei series first.... -_-

Edit: Actually, you've totally written mon stuff. That's basically what the Fate series is.
I suppose so. Never really thought of it that way. If anything, I would've thought the loophole for saying I've written mon stuff would be Persona 3.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#15471: Apr 11th 2016 at 10:57:25 AM

Persona didn't occur to me, since Personas are extensions of the user rather than anything external.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15472: Apr 11th 2016 at 3:07:51 PM

But they're sort of like Mons for a Wild Card user. Plus, Shin Megami Tensei was doing Mons before Pokemon made it mainstream.

edited 11th Apr '16 3:08:05 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#15473: Apr 11th 2016 at 5:17:53 PM

Which makes that old moral panic about pokemon being occult devilry corrupting your children extra hilarious.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#15474: Apr 11th 2016 at 5:20:37 PM

Maybe some idiot got the two series mixed up.

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#15475: Apr 11th 2016 at 5:31:20 PM

Actually, I've heard that Red and Blue version were (and perhaps are still) banned in Saudi Arabia. Something something "brainwashing the children".


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