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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#26: Jan 6th 2012 at 7:20:09 AM

Color Motif is a different trope than Color-Coded Characters, although there certainly can be overlap.

I'll YKTTW Color Motif as soon as I launch one of my current YKTT Ws. As for the crowner, looks pretty convincing so far. Do we need to give it the full three days?

edited 6th Jan '12 7:21:50 AM by ccoa

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20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#27: Jan 9th 2012 at 1:09:09 AM

Bump. Things are currently 11:1 in favor of splitting.

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#28: Jan 9th 2012 at 2:34:44 AM

Got the holler for calling the crowner but I don't see the need to rush.

a) Those good souls who want to get stuck into some work can go ahead; are there are several unfinished TRS projects to get into.

b) This current article has 1833 wicks: working through those seems like it will be quite a bit of (additional) work. So my question is do we have folks signed up to seeing this split through? In any case, no need to rush the crowner given the big job ahead.

edited 9th Jan '12 2:36:15 AM by Camacan

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#29: Jan 9th 2012 at 7:39:50 AM

Of course I'm going to finish it. I wouldn't have started it otherwise. I did the original move from Color-Coded for Your Convenience to Good Colors, Evil Colors pretty much on my own, I can do this lesser job, too.

While I'm bumping this, any opinions on switching with the redirect?

edited 9th Jan '12 8:16:26 AM by ccoa

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#30: Jan 9th 2012 at 8:58:20 AM

Which redirect, and which trope?

If you mean for the characters one, I prefer the name on the crowner to the other name.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#31: Jan 9th 2012 at 8:59:53 AM

Switching Colour-Coded for Your Convenience with Color-Coded for Your Convenience. Some people brought up on the discussion page that it should be the American English spelling, since the Trope Namer uses that spelling.

Myself, I really don't care.

edited 9th Jan '12 9:00:09 AM by ccoa

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#32: Jan 9th 2012 at 9:29:51 AM

<accidentally takes a wrong turn at the VG forum and stumbles into TRS...>

Why not give Color-Coded Characters the name Chromatic Arrangement, and change Chromatic Arrangement to something a bit more indicative?

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#33: Jan 9th 2012 at 9:47:14 AM

That name could apply to anything with an arrangement. It gives no qualifiers that it's about characters.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#34: Jan 9th 2012 at 9:48:02 AM

Yeah, Chromatic Arrangement is just a bad trope name. It sounds more like it's talking about how colours are ordered in a work than anything else.

edited 9th Jan '12 9:48:33 AM by shimaspawn

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#35: Jan 9th 2012 at 9:50:17 AM

Could be Chromatic Character Arrangement instead. Although then we need to talk about renaming Chromatic Arrangement, which means this thread will have to wait for yet another opening in the TRS.

edited 9th Jan '12 9:50:36 AM by ccoa

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#36: Jan 9th 2012 at 10:18:09 AM

Color-Coded Characters is just clearer as a name especially as this really isn't about an arrangement.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#37: Jan 9th 2012 at 10:58:41 AM

Yeah, it's a Super-Trope, which means it needs a general name.

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#38: Feb 15th 2012 at 6:29:19 AM

Crowner locked.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#39: Feb 15th 2012 at 12:56:21 PM

Now since we are gong to split, is discussing a rename for Chromatic Arrangement allowed here? It doesn't indicate anything other than it has to do with colors.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#40: Feb 15th 2012 at 1:08:26 PM

No, that needs it's own thread.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#41: Feb 15th 2012 at 3:01:49 PM

Okay, then should we make the new page in ykttw, or a sandbox?

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#42: Feb 15th 2012 at 3:31:03 PM

I'll sandbox it when I get a free hour or so. Possibly tomorrow morning.

If someone else wants to do it before then, feel free.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#43: Feb 16th 2012 at 11:27:56 AM

Sandbox ahoy. I'll split the examples when we launch the page.

edited 16th Feb '12 11:28:03 AM by ccoa

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#44: Feb 16th 2012 at 11:35:40 AM

So we'll need a thread for the picture?

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
Cure Candy
#45: Feb 16th 2012 at 11:52:07 AM

It seems ok but I think that it overemphasizes distinguishing by colors that sounds like Only Six Faces Pallet Swap type thing. These characters are usually unique they each just get their unique signature color motif usually matching something else like their Element Of Choice, Emotional Color fitting their personality etc (like red or orange for Hot-Blooded or Playing with Fire user.).

[up]Yes probably need two new threads on that

The picture for the new trope IMO does not need that gray scale comparasion (that would be better on another page.) needs something more extreme too showing all the different ways they get color coded (Hair, eyes, weapons, outfits.)

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#46: Feb 16th 2012 at 11:52:18 AM

^^For Color-Coded for Your Convenience we will.

^EDIT: I disagree, the picture is perfect for this trope. It covers everything from when the characters are indistinguishable from each other without color (like the TMNT pic) or the characters are very different but still color coded (like Power Rangers).

I will see if I can make it more inclusive in the description.

edited 16th Feb '12 11:54:17 AM by ccoa

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#47: Feb 16th 2012 at 12:01:31 PM

[up]It lacking ways the trope could be used many works do different things for their colors we should show as many ways and aspects as possible like [1] [2]

And the grayscale is not quite the trope IMO that is Only Six Faces really not this (or something close to it.) issue for another thread I guess...

We have some of those tropes already like Elemental Eye Colors (subtrope of this.) Rainbow Motif (sister trope)

edited 16th Feb '12 12:04:13 PM by Raso

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#48: Feb 16th 2012 at 12:04:27 PM

And by "as many ways and aspects as possible" you seem to mean "in anime."

This trope is any time color is used to distinguish characters. Whether or not it's the only way is completely irrelevant. The picture we already have makes it obvious that it's a distinguishing characteristic and was already chosen for this trope. I don't see a reason to change it.

Elemental Eye Colors is a subtrope of Color-Coded Elements, which is already mentioned.

edited 16th Feb '12 12:06:44 PM by ccoa

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#49: Feb 16th 2012 at 12:08:53 PM

No I mean hair, eyes, outfits, weapons, mechs, accessories, cars, attacks, subtitles, etc all can be color coded to the character not just bandanas and we should show it. [1]

The current image is a very limited version of this to the point of "Indistinguishable Except For Their Color" that should probably be a subtrope to this (Color is one of the ways to make Only Six Faces more unique, others being Hair style, eye shape, scars and such.)

And being rude is rather uncalled for....

edited 16th Feb '12 1:04:37 PM by Raso

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#50: Feb 16th 2012 at 12:32:49 PM

It wasn't intended to be rude. It just seems to be a pattern in your suggestions: they are very anime or video game specific.

I'd wait and see if we actually have enough examples of that proposed subtrope. I don't see any reason to split it off.

Not even the work the page image comes from is an example of that proposed subtrope, since the turtles have different weapons, voices, and personalities.

edited 16th Feb '12 12:33:54 PM by ccoa

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