Bump. Things are currently 11:1 in favor of splitting.
Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - CamacanGot the holler for calling the crowner but I don't see the need to rush.
a) Those good souls who want to get stuck into some work can go ahead; are there are several unfinished TRS projects to get into.
b) This current article has 1833 wicks: working through those seems like it will be quite a bit of (additional) work. So my question is do we have folks signed up to seeing this split through? In any case, no need to rush the crowner given the big job ahead.
edited 9th Jan '12 2:36:15 AM by Camacan
Of course I'm going to finish it. I wouldn't have started it otherwise. I did the original move from Color-Coded for Your Convenience to Good Colors, Evil Colors pretty much on my own, I can do this lesser job, too.
While I'm bumping this, any opinions on switching with the redirect?
edited 9th Jan '12 8:16:26 AM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Which redirect, and which trope?
If you mean for the characters one, I prefer the name on the crowner to the other name.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.Switching Colour-Coded for Your Convenience with Color-Coded for Your Convenience. Some people brought up on the discussion page that it should be the American English spelling, since the Trope Namer uses that spelling.
Myself, I really don't care.
edited 9th Jan '12 9:00:09 AM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.<accidentally takes a wrong turn at the VG forum and stumbles into TRS...>
Why not give Color-Coded Characters the name Chromatic Arrangement, and change Chromatic Arrangement to something a bit more indicative?
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.That name could apply to anything with an arrangement. It gives no qualifiers that it's about characters.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.Yeah, Chromatic Arrangement is just a bad trope name. It sounds more like it's talking about how colours are ordered in a work than anything else.
edited 9th Jan '12 9:48:33 AM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickCould be Chromatic Character Arrangement instead. Although then we need to talk about renaming Chromatic Arrangement, which means this thread will have to wait for yet another opening in the TRS.
edited 9th Jan '12 9:50:36 AM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Color-Coded Characters is just clearer as a name especially as this really isn't about an arrangement.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickYeah, it's a Super-Trope, which means it needs a general name.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.Crowner locked.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.Now since we are gong to split, is discussing a rename for Chromatic Arrangement allowed here? It doesn't indicate anything other than it has to do with colors.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.No, that needs it's own thread.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickOkay, then should we make the new page in ykttw, or a sandbox?
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.I'll sandbox it when I get a free hour or so. Possibly tomorrow morning.
If someone else wants to do it before then, feel free.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Sandbox ahoy. I'll split the examples when we launch the page.
edited 16th Feb '12 11:28:03 AM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.So we'll need a thread for the picture?
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.It seems ok but I think that it overemphasizes distinguishing by colors that sounds like Only Six Faces Pallet Swap type thing. These characters are usually unique they each just get their unique signature color motif usually matching something else like their Element Of Choice, Emotional Color fitting their personality etc (like red or orange for Hot-Blooded or Playing with Fire user.).
Yes probably need two new threads on that
The picture for the new trope IMO does not need that gray scale comparasion (that would be better on another page.) needs something more extreme too showing all the different ways they get color coded (Hair, eyes, weapons, outfits.)
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!^^For Color-Coded for Your Convenience we will.
^EDIT: I disagree, the picture is perfect for this trope. It covers everything from when the characters are indistinguishable from each other without color (like the TMNT pic) or the characters are very different but still color coded (like Power Rangers).
I will see if I can make it more inclusive in the description.
edited 16th Feb '12 11:54:17 AM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.It lacking ways the trope could be used many works do different things for their colors we should show as many ways and aspects as possible like [1]◊ [2]◊
And the grayscale is not quite the trope IMO that is Only Six Faces really not this (or something close to it.) issue for another thread I guess...
We have some of those tropes already like Elemental Eye Colors (subtrope of this.) Rainbow Motif (sister trope)
edited 16th Feb '12 12:04:13 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!And by "as many ways and aspects as possible" you seem to mean "in anime."
This trope is any time color is used to distinguish characters. Whether or not it's the only way is completely irrelevant. The picture we already have makes it obvious that it's a distinguishing characteristic and was already chosen for this trope. I don't see a reason to change it.
Elemental Eye Colors is a subtrope of Color-Coded Elements, which is already mentioned.
edited 16th Feb '12 12:06:44 PM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.No I mean hair, eyes, outfits, weapons, mechs, accessories, cars, attacks, subtitles, etc all can be color coded to the character not just bandanas and we should show it. [1]◊
The current image is a very limited version of this to the point of "Indistinguishable Except For Their Color" that should probably be a subtrope to this (Color is one of the ways to make Only Six Faces more unique, others being Hair style, eye shape, scars and such.)
And being rude is rather uncalled for....
edited 16th Feb '12 1:04:37 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!It wasn't intended to be rude. It just seems to be a pattern in your suggestions: they are very anime or video game specific.
I'd wait and see if we actually have enough examples of that proposed subtrope. I don't see any reason to split it off.
Not even the work the page image comes from is an example of that proposed subtrope, since the turtles have different weapons, voices, and personalities.
edited 16th Feb '12 12:33:54 PM by ccoa
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Crown Description:
Vote up for yes, down for no.
Color Motif is a different trope than Color-Coded Characters, although there certainly can be overlap.
I'll YKTTW Color Motif as soon as I launch one of my current YKTT Ws. As for the crowner, looks pretty convincing so far. Do we need to give it the full three days?
edited 6th Jan '12 7:21:50 AM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.