General Star Wars Thread

While I'm enjoying all of these new additions to Star Wars, I'm disconcerted by how there's little to no connection between the comics. There's a new artist, a new writer, and a completely new story for the same characters for each episode. It's jarring getting used to one look for the characters, then having to read a completely different look for them sometimes in the same book. I wish that even if they changed the line artist that they would keep the same colorist; the most disjoint feeling comes from a new color scheme every time there's a new story.

Gotta say, LOVE the Dameron comics. Poe's parents are ridiculously good looking. Guess we know where Poe gets it from, haha. Picked up his mama's piloting skills too, so he's not just another pretty face either. Whoever did the art for that comic did a fantastic job, although there was one panel where Leia's whole-hearted smile got a little creepy

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

It's Phil Noto isn't it? Yeah his art has always been gorgeous.

Do you think we'll get a more positively portrayed New Republic in future works, or is this new continuity dead set on portraying institutionalized good as being incompetent, rotten, and idiotic?

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

in the novelliztion of TFA she said the republic grow complacent and didnt lisen and now the hosiam system is heave of planet next to Aldeeran...

You gooddamn know the answer and yes, is a depressing as it sound

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

I meant in Episode 8.

I'm just really tired of fucking rebels. None of us are rebels. Rebels in real life are fucking terrorists, drug lords, and war rapists. There's nothing glamorous about them anymore, and portraying "da gubbamint" as being one-dimensionally inept is just as tired.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

But this isnt now, they are facing the space nazi 0,2 and facing them is not going to be moraly grey in any way now, even more consider they throw a huge super weapon and blow a system.

granted is just make nonsense because if Republic go full war is going to be a crup stom battle and HARSH.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

I figure it was just to set the stage for The Force Awakens to re-plot A New Hope. In future installments they likely can't pull the same trick again unless there were another thirty year hiatus, so they'll have to move forward with the Republic.

I mean, they bothered to include a New Republic rather than having the opening crawl pull a complete "and then The First Order crushed the fledging New Republic and forced the Rebel Alliance into hiding again".

Eh, it's an old "Revolutionary War - Americans vs British Empire" trope at play. Makes sense of all the British baddies.

edited 8th May '16 11:13:56 PM by Tuckerscreator

I was going to make a quip about our new protagonist being British, but then I remembered the American colonists were technically still British.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?

And that is why Paul Revere and Dr. Prescott did not say: "The British are coming".

The More You Know.

edited 9th May '16 12:25:01 AM by Tuckerscreator

If the New Republic still goes "Well the First Order isn't a threat anymore, we blew up their big Death Star planet" that will be infuriating. If it's justified to be "We lost the entire command structure for the Navy along with the Senate", I'll understand.

At least let's get some scenes where regions like Corellia or Kuat kick ass. Like, Corellia proving why they basically built galactic civilization through their engineering and tenacity by being one of the region governments to thoroughly thrash an FO incursion.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

Coruscant built galactic civilization. What did Correlia do again, besides being Han Solo's homeworld that's never actually appeared in a film?

Invented the modern goddamn hyperdrive, bro. Coruscant may be Rome, but that alone makes early Corellia basically the Mesopotamia or the Ur of the Star Wars Galaxy.

They're a Core World. That's pretty much automatic importance and prestige.

edited 9th May '16 12:02:06 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

Also they are idiots as in the Old EU they let a megalomaniac gain power THREE freaking times

Cut off one head 2 more shall take it's place! Hail Hydra

The Resistance aren't really "rebels" in the same way the Alliance was. They're more like an off-the-books proxy force.

edited 9th May '16 12:18:49 PM by HamburgerTime

Twice, because despite being a total asshole, Thrackan was their asshole.

Plus, Garm Bel Iblis was a Corellian, and he was awesome.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

Things that are funny(and kind of sad):

Phasma has more lines in this short than she does in all of TFA.

Worth keeping in mind that...

The American Revolution ended not with the 13 colonies liberating everyone in the world from the British Crown (though they made an attempt at liberating Canada and found out that the Canadians didn't want to be liberated) but set up a situation where the New [American] Republic coexisted in uneasy peace with the [British] Empire.

After the American Revolution, the Founders, even those that had served in the military, were leery of "standing armies" and disbanded all but a token military force.

The next time the US fought the British Empire they didn't really accomplish much outside of a handful of spectacular victories at Baltimore and New Orleans that only barely balanced out the embarrassment of having their capital city burned down.

Anti-authority themes do permeate Star Wars, though. I attribute this to the culture the series originated in; the US was just coming off both Vietnam and Nixon, after all. In fact, the Nixon administration was supposedly one of the main inspirations for the Empire, though Nazi Germany and Rome under Augustus Caesar were also big influences.

Anti-authoritarianism is highly visible in the prequels as well; note how every single authority figure, apart from Qui-Gon and arguably Obi-Wan, is dancing on the strings of the bad guys, whether they're a visionary idealist like Padme or a soulless corporate raider like Gunray.

But 1974 came and went, and even Nixon has been reevaluated over and over, again, and the assessment of his personality has become more nuanced over time. Only New-Age Retro Hippie types immediate write him off as a President Evil. As for Augustus Caesar...he was actually pretty fair-minded as far as Roman rulers went, neither as petty as the Republicans that supported him, or as dysfunctional as the Imperial family that followed, albeit a ruthless autocrat, nonetheless. I'll make no excuse for Hitler, because one would be totally undeserved, but what this franchise needs is some goddamn nuance. Authority isn't always bad! Bloodline was excellent, but still, a lot of story elements left me uneasy — the Centrists are blatant ultraconservative caricatures — one is such a Colonel Kilgore that he's Still Wearing the Old Colors, parading around with his medals, other one is a one-dimensional War Hawk, and the others that aren't First Order plants are Imperial fanboys. The deck is totally stacked.

What was needed was a Centrist who was a genuine social progressive, and not an Imperial fanboy, like Casterfo, believing that planetary governments are full of prejudice and Fantastic Racism, and a higher authority is needed to keep them in check. Instead, we have Stupid Good pacifist libertarians versus Obviously Evil fascists. It's just exhausting to have to contemplate a franchise where the establishment is always evil.

edited 9th May '16 2:11:47 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

No, I write Nixon off as a slimy guy who did good things but was also a criminal who toppled democracies to make communism expand, just like I do with a lot of US Presidents. Let's not forget he paved the way for Pinochet to get into power in Chile and and his bombing of Cambodia allowed Pol Pot to rise to power.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?

Well however you see Nixon now, to a person in the late '70s he was basically the Antichrist so I don't find it surprising the Empire was based on his government.

I mean... it is Star Wars. There are literal forces of all good and all evil in this 'verse, with good guys who wield swords made of light, and bad guys who dress like skeletons and command flagships called Death Stars. It's arguably not the right place to be looking for nuance.

edited 9th May '16 2:22:13 PM by Tuckerscreator

Also this.

Like I said, the 70s are over, it's time to stop letting the Vietnam generation poison our attitudes towards civilization. These were the same assholes who voted for Reagan. They have plenty to answer for, so why not simply avoid the ersatz Nixon-era caricatures going into the future? Plus, Star Wars abandoned straight Black-and-White Morality the day it made Vader Luke's father.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."