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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#826: Apr 22nd 2012 at 12:35:51 PM

No, muggles of any kind are Type 0. A Badass Normal is Type 1.

Oscannimox Since: Apr, 2012
#827: Apr 26th 2012 at 12:20:31 AM

[up]is this is different story if they aren't fit Human standards of normality?

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Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#829: Apr 26th 2012 at 10:42:42 AM

I suppose it could get muddled with non humans. Where does a giant squid fit. It easily out preforms unaided humans underwater, but it can't operate a submarine or even effectively walk on land. 0? 1?

Only one top spot doesn't make much sense. A story can have more than one author or teller at the same time. How many comics are co-productions? How often do we see Creative Differences? Not to mention several religions believe equal but opposite omnipotent beings keeping each other in check, like Zoroastriams and Gnosticism. As long as they can effectively move the plot wherever they want and can't be challenged by the setting itself they count. Any hierarchy among them really shouldn't matter.

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#830: Apr 30th 2012 at 7:53:21 AM

In this post Super Weight/Super Nine Scale was recommended to be added to No Real Life Examples Please.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#831: Apr 30th 2012 at 8:20:35 AM

Yep. I do believe that the super weight system is far better served in fiction.

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Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#832: Apr 30th 2012 at 8:32:26 AM

Under the old system, the presence of three categories was all it needed to listed, and the first three categories (-1=babies, 0=Civilians, 1=Trained Professionals) are based on real life. Of course, that makes a real life section redundant.

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miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
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#833: May 20th 2012 at 6:58:27 PM

@ Cider: Most animals and plants are also type -1

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#834: May 20th 2012 at 8:43:54 PM

Depends on the ecosystem.

Lions and alligators, and the things they hunt, are typically Type 1.

efsfsefsdf Persistance and Courage Since: Jun, 2011
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#835: May 23rd 2012 at 6:25:25 PM

I don't have enough time to evaluate all 33 pages of posts so correct me if someone already made this point. I feel that categoring the scale based soley on how magical the character is too restrictive, and instead should be based upon how much of a force they have in the story. For example, Gordon Freeman from Half Life is technically a Iron weight, because he's human. However, it doesn't get the point across that he is a force of nature, who is able to kill Abnormal weights with ease, has some challenge with Super weights but is always victorious, and has fought the Hyper Weights with lots of resistance, but won every time. Thats a difference of 3 on the scale. A example i like is the GTA 3 example, where the FBI and US army is listed as a Hyper Weight, when they have no magical powers because they are a such a strong force that can take down whatever they want.

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#836: May 23rd 2012 at 6:47:47 PM

No, because that would give the scale no meaning. The GTA example is just wrong.

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#837: Jul 10th 2012 at 10:26:04 AM

Is this finished?

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
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#840: Jul 27th 2012 at 12:12:07 PM

What would a real world plant rank on the scale?

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#841: Jul 27th 2012 at 12:25:31 PM

A houseplant would be -1. A Christmas tree would be 0. A large tree would be 1.

edited 27th Jul '12 12:26:02 PM by KingZeal

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#842: Jul 27th 2012 at 12:31:36 PM

Locking up.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
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15th Jan '12 10:14:02 PM

Crown Description:

Below are links to Sandboxes, each one vying to be the new trope of Super Weight. Comments on why a positive or negative vote is given for any Sandbox are appreciated and encouraged.

Sandboxes have three tiers of characters (Muggle, Super, Cosmic), each with three weights held within, thus creating two more Weights than the former scale. This was done because tropers taking part in the discussion had a hard time agreeing where the boundaries between one weight and the next were, and also in order to make the weight descriptions clearer. Also, weight descriptions were rewritten to focus more on over-encompassing qualifications and what tropes each weight may fulfill as opposed to providing examples that are too specific and don't cover every type of character.

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