Needs a clearer definition : World Of Buxom

Ok, this trope needs a clearer definition before it becomes "Work x has a lot of busty women", which judging some of the examples like Resident Evil, Killer Instinct, this page is definitely running the risk. Also there's an annoying amount of One Word Examples.

edited 15th Oct '11 2:42:12 PM by captainpat

I agree with you completely, this needs to be more clearly defined. Even though this spent about three weeks on Ykttw, I still couldn't find a good way to define what counts.

BTW, Here's a sandbox for the page.

Seems pretty clearly defined to me: the vast majority of the story's women have breasts significantly larger than the Real Life average.

No such real life average exist. What's an average number of big breasted women in one area to one person is completely different to another person. If a show has 7 busty women is that World of Buxom? 9? 10? Why is so important to note a work that a lot of characters have generally lean towards a specific bust size?

Ugh, more tropes about people ogling boobies. Enough is enough. Cut this.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

If practically everyone in the cast has them its this trope... size of the cast does not matter. Especially in drawn works where this one of the appeals of the work even more so if its an Ecchi works like High School Of The Dead or straight up Hentai like Honey Blonde.... Everyone except for the Token Loli is rocking watermelons (slight exaggeration) and they are not Gag Boobs because they are not played for comedy they are played for Fanservice or worse. (If its not played for fanservice than its not this)

edited 16th Oct '11 6:17:48 AM by Raso

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!

Then use actual fanservice trope like Male Gaze, Stripperiffic, or Gainaxing. The fact that everyone has big breasts is not something important that we need to note. How the used with fanservice tropes are.

edited 16th Oct '11 7:24:47 AM by captainpat

There's clearly a trope in there - something like Eiken doesn't happen on accident.

Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan

It happens because the creator really like big boobs. He does that in all of his works.

This is not covered in any of those tropes you listed nor does this require those tropes (They help though).

Also this trope is not good or bad it's a specific style trope (Art style or casting although almost strictly the former.) many works go for a Taste the Rainbow type thing.

As well as this is keeping the misuse off other tropes like Most Common Super Power and crap which most of said misuse was this in the its so common everybody has them way.

It's not Author Appeal if that is all he can draw or that is the specific crowd the work is targeting. Even if it is Author Appeal it doesn't mean they have to all be that like this trope, Ken Akamatsu said it is Author Appeal for him but he still draws all kinds of characters not just everyone with big breasts (He just makes them Ditzy or fight.).

edited 16th Oct '11 8:10:59 AM by Raso

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!

So then what is it covered by? Because we're not gonna have a trope just pointing out characters in work x have big boobs.

Edit: I'm not well versed in art, so I don't have a clear handle on what can be called a style, but I'm pretty sure drawing female characters with big breasts is not a specific style.

edited 16th Oct '11 8:11:01 AM by captainpat

I'd like it if something about "art style" were in the title, so people wouldn't sinkhole to it.

The point is that we already have half a million tropes about breasts; we do not need more.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Since it doesn't have a clear objective definition, maybe we should mark it subjective?

Well yeah, that too. But we should probably cut the other breast tropes first. At least this is a stylistic choice that you can link to an artist overall or a work. As for the others... we have pages for sideboob and underboobs. Does anyone seriously think those are tropes?

edited 16th Oct '11 8:51:27 AM by Routerie

By what rationale did you determine that "we do not need any more"?

They are as much tropes as Bare Your Midriff is.

While that might be arguable, the intent of World of Buxom is that the vast majority of the cast's female portion's average bust size is in high enough excess above "normal" that the viewer/reader can say "alright, there is just no way this is realisitic at all". Eiken, Godannar, and Divergence Eve are prime examples.

edited 16th Oct '11 9:24:25 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

As in "Not tropes"? Glad we agree.

But at least that one has enough shame to call itself "Bare Your Midriff" rather than just "Midriff".

edited 16th Oct '11 9:23:18 AM by Routerie

Isn't "most women in the work have big boobs" already covered by stuff like Most Common Super Power? It's not really necessary to have more boob tropes that are basically the same, but kinda sorta maybe slightly different.

edited 16th Oct '11 9:25:11 AM by Ronka87

Thanks for the all fish!

No, I'm afraid that we disagree.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

No. That is specific to the western superhero genre (note genre), where it is rigidly enforced by the industry. This is just about an art style.

No, Most Common Super Power is about big breasts being a standard physical trait among superheroines in the western superhero genre.

This is about a high number of female characters in a work having large breasts.

I'm gonna have to disagree this trope being not being realistic. It's certain not normal for a setting to have a large amount of busty women but it's not beyond the realms of reality.

Also, need to ask this again but what are you guys defining as an art style? Is it impossible to have small or average breasted women in the World of Buxom art style?

edited 16th Oct '11 9:49:53 AM by captainpat

I think that "unrealistic number of females having unrealistically large bosoms" would probably be a good place to start firming things up.

Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan

What is an "unrealistic number of females having unrealistically large bosoms"?

Something like Divergence Eve, or Godannar, or High School Of The Dead, or the H-games Oppai Baka, Ane to Boin and Tsuma to Mama to Boin.... I think you would notice by now that one could draw up a large number of examples from Japanese media, and conclude that this is either a very common Author Appeal in Japan or something beyond Author Appeal. The phenomenon has been long noticed by several sites that are interested in analyzing anime/manga trends like Sankaku Complex; I don't see why we shouldn't do the same. There's a trope behind it, no arguing about that.

At best, they'd probably be limited to one or two Pettanko-type girls, who would often lament the "unfairness" of the universe for their "lack of endowments", being usually quite smaller in comparison to the next largest girl even if they have a decent-IRL bust size. Actual loli-bodytypes would be flat as a board, not just small.

edited 16th Oct '11 10:19:55 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

So then it's not an artstyle. All it means is that there are a lot of busty women in a specific work.