The actors both agree that Beckett and Sparrow were lovers, (this is why the compass always points at Jack for Beckett and why Jack makes that "what interest could Elizabeth be to you" comment) Beckett's actor says that the mark left was emotional, Depp says the mark left was syphilis scars.
I'm really sad that Angelica seemingly isn't in this.
edited 5th Oct '16 3:51:55 PM by Whowho
It strikes me that the franchise has almost exhausted the pirate mythology.
We've had The Black Spot, buried treasure, curses, ghosts, zombies, mermaids, a mutiny, ships in bottles, a one legged man, privatering, Davey Jones, Davey jones' locker, a sea monster, a pirate court, black beard, parley, democracy, a treasure cove, the pirate code, hangings, the Spanish armada.
Like, all I can think of that's left is actually piracy.
There's actually quite a bit more than that. Each movie is a veritable arsenal of nautical myths and clichés:
Curse of the Black Pearl has Hernán Cortez, cursed gold (cursed aztec gold), a ship with black sails, a damned crew, walking the plank, marooning, mutiny, cursed medallions, a unchartable Island, hanging, Tortuga, the Pirate Code and magic compasses
Dead Man's Chest adds cannibal natives, the Black Spot, Davy Jones, Davy Jones's Locker, The Flying Dutchman, the Kraken, The East India Trading Company (basically a knockoff of the British East/West India Companies), Privateering and Voodoo witches,
At World's End ramps it up even further by adding The Green Flash, the edge of the world, the shifting map, the afterlife of those who died at sea, the sunset-sunrise Chinese myth, the Brethren Court, Pieces of Eight, Calypso and magic massive maelstroms.
On Stranger Tides brings us Ponce de León, the Fountain of Youth, Mermaids, Zombies, Greek Fire, Magic Swords, poisoned swords, literally bottled ships, The Spanish Armada, actual privateering, pegleg piracy.
As you can imagine, they're starting to run out of myths and clichés. Dead Men Tell No Tales is basically scraping the barrel to use The Bermuda Triangle (where Salazar resides apparently) and Poseidon (the main MacGuffin this time around appears to be his Trident, which gives whoever wields it complete control of the seas).
I somewhat hope this film is the last (or at least the last in this particular setting) because they're running out of nautical lore.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
If the Domestic Abuse allegations towards Depp pan out, it may very well be the last if their lead becomes non-bankable. 
I wouldn't mind seeing the franchise sailing away from Jack Sparrow. Barbossa is a fantastic character and I wouldn't mind seeing him take the lead for a while, for example.
Or just a complete change of pace. Make a prequel focusing on the First Brethren Court and how they bound Calypso, make a mystical pirate movie with Chinese Pirates like At World's End Sao Feng (since pandering to the Chinese market is all the rage nowadays). The concept of "mystical piracy" can really go places.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Not really a lord of anything
They still haven't tackled one sea myth that I thought would have been obvious: Scylla and Charybdis.
edited 5th Oct '16 9:19:46 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.
Isn't Sao Feng problematical as far as the much-sought-after-in-Hollywood-these-days Chinese audience goes? What him being a gangster and those not being all that popular with the Chinese government, especially if it isn't them that's making the illicit money?
That all you got?
Who, Chow Yun Fat? O.o
That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
As much as I hate to say it, celebrity status has a habit of outweighing actual crimes. While anyone who decides to boycott a Depp film due to the domestic abuse would be entirely justified in doing so, I doubt Disney has anything to fear from it.
Like, remember that time when Katie Holmes divorced Tom Cruise to protect their daughter from her shit-crazy husband? And now he's still getting cast in 3-4 films a year?
edited 6th Oct '16 7:02:46 AM by TobiasDrake
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Depp's bankability has been a steadily dwindling thing for years now though, even before the Heard case and that bizarre business with the puppies. Most of his recent roles have ranged from ignored to ridiculed to outright vilified and pretty much all of them have performed below expectations. Black Mass did manage to catch him some critical attention again but it didn't do much better in the box office than the rest of his recent catalogue, Disney hinging their promo on him wouldn't have been a certainty either way.
I seriously doubt that they'd do more of these without Jack Sparrow. He's THE face of the franchise.
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
What's weird is some celebrities get taken down by this sort scandal and others, seemingly arbitrarily, don't. Jerry Lee Lewis was never able to live down schtupping his underage cousin, for instance, while Woody Allen is still successful despite several pedophilia allegations.
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
It depends how public it goes.
That all you got?
Queen of Good Things, Honest
Off topic. I'm happy to continue this in the On Topic forum though? I have statistics to hand!
-long whistle-
...I'll admit that's the first time I've heard that one.
What is that even from? It sounds like the actors were just making a joke.
Anyways, apparently there's a book that talks about Beckett and Jack's history and well, this reddit post I guess sums it up: https://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/2h2tmf/request_what_was_the_mark_jack_sparrow_left_on/
New plot details on USA Today.
Salazar's backstory as a supernatural pirate that crossed paths with a teenage Jack Sparrow seeking out the Trident of Poseidon sounds an awful lot like Captain Torrents from the Teen Jack Sparrow novels.
A new (and fairly great) trailer for Super Bowl.
Jack is back
I don't think Barbossa is making it out alive of this one, from what the trailers tell me. The plot is all about Salazar getting the Trident to destroy all pirates. Now, if you were to destroy all pirates, who'd you start with? Capn' Barbossa, of course. The trailer already shows Salazar having Barbossa dead to rights. I think he'll die as a Sacrificial Lion early on to build up Salazar's menace, Salazar will kill him to draw Jack out of hiding to come back after him for Revenge, because as much as Barbossa and Jack bicker, they're still kind of friends.
Also, funny they used Cash's "Ain't No Grave", given how successfully his "Hurt" was used in the trailer for Logan.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
That all you got?
Is that Barbossa, though?
Also, how did that undead parrot even fly?
That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.Magic.
Also, who else could it be? We saw his face as the ship approaches him and Salazar sneaks up from behind.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
That all you got?
Eh, he just doesn't look like how I remember Geoffrey Rush looking as Barbossa.
That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
Come to think of it, they never did explain what "mark" Jack left on Beckett now did they? It's brought up once, then Beckett changes the subject and we never come back to it.
My theory is that Salazar is perhaps similar to Norrington. Namely a mostly honest naval officer chasing after a pirate, which leads to his undoing. But whereas Norrington was simply disgraced, Salazar and his entire crew died.
And yeah, Salazar looks like he could be a really cool villain. Javier Bardem seems to excel at playing villains.