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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#76: Sep 14th 2011 at 5:15:05 PM

We can just make a list of common ways these outfits are done, like Pimped-Out Dress does. No need to make a while bunch of new tropes or make this an index.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#77: Sep 18th 2011 at 4:44:20 PM

[up] What? umm yeah there is a point to this there are already a shit ton of tropes and Magical Girl is bloated enough as is.

And Frills of Justice is the perfect name since the Dark Magical Girl will not get many frills at all till the Heel–Face Turn then gets them as she is good now. (exception is Fate in Nanoha but that series tones the frills down alot as is.)

Anyway Bump

Send this to YKTTW and get a rename crowner going? I like Frill Upgrade to go along with Shonen Upgrade as this comes with a powerup but we can go with something comparable to Mecha Expansion Pack as well they are both sister tropes to this.

edited 18th Sep '11 5:01:10 PM by Raso

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#78: Sep 28th 2011 at 11:39:43 AM

Well there seems to be consensus for a Trope Transplant, so let's get an alt name crowner.

edited 28th Sep '11 11:39:53 AM by DragonQuestZ

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#79: Sep 28th 2011 at 11:42:18 AM

Alt names blank hooked.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#80: Sep 28th 2011 at 11:43:16 AM

Work on Sandbox.Frills Of Justice is still on my todo list along with the rewrite of Magical Girl and probably of Dark Magical Girl. I'm just really really busy.

And as for the transplant title, does anyone not agree on Frilly Upgrade?

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#81: Sep 28th 2011 at 11:48:21 AM

That's what the crowner is there for.

But I'm not too keen on that, as it could imply anything, costume or otherwise, being upgraded, even if it wasn't frilly before.

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#82: Sep 28th 2011 at 11:50:55 AM

It doesn't need to have been frilly before. Especially if they were more action girl before the costume will often go from rather plain at first to quite frilly as they get more power. It's not uncommon for the first power tier to be almost simplistic in design.

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#83: Sep 29th 2011 at 3:47:47 AM

[up] Yeah.

Also the amount of frills upgraded usually depends on what kind of powerup it is. If its a So Last Season Upgrade from like S1 to S2 the frill upgrade will be relatively minor, If its a 11th-Hour Superpower upgrade thats only on screen for 5 minutes (possibly with its own Trinket and additional Transformation Sequence [1].) oh its on.

An Example I already had uploaded... Season 1 to Season 2 Not a big difference, Super transformation can that get anymore frilly?

Anyway I am not sure I like Frilly Upgrade Of Justice it comes too close to the old name which is going to be something different.

edited 29th Sep '11 4:36:02 AM by Raso

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#84: Oct 6th 2011 at 12:28:27 PM

Calling this for Frilly Upgrade

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#85: Oct 13th 2011 at 12:18:16 PM

Well that was solved. Now to change the page, wicks, and set up the proper trope for the current name.

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#86: Oct 16th 2011 at 5:48:17 PM

Cool Crown and Leg High Boots are up on YKTTW, for the page that Frills of Justice being turned into.

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#87: Nov 2nd 2011 at 2:59:59 PM

Bumping...

Going with the convo in the Image Picking thread

The current page needs a bit of a rewrite, right now it comes out as seasonal specific and not related to their power up, when that is completely the heart of the trope (hence the old name to the trope) and needs to be made clear.

When a magical girl gets a Powerup they get one of two things a new weapon (that is easily marketed as a toy) or a Frill Upgrade.... Or both at the same time.

They don't get muscular, armor etc they get more frills and fancier costumes, its not just a seasonal thing too it can be in transformation stages with the new power and thus new costume, when and why varies it could be a Mid-Season Upgrade, 11th-Hour Superpower or So Last Season etc.

The powerup aspect is intertwined with the frills literally the Magical Girl equivalent to Mecha Expansion Pack.

edited 2nd Nov '11 3:09:31 PM by Raso

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#88: Nov 2nd 2011 at 8:13:19 PM

Should we sandbox or run through YKTTW, since we're doing a trope transplant?

Cool Crown was launched, by the way, as was Thigh High Boots.

edited 2nd Nov '11 8:18:07 PM by NoirGrimoir

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#89: Nov 2nd 2011 at 8:24:47 PM

Probably a good idea.

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lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
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#90: Jan 10th 2012 at 10:20:43 AM

Sooo.... Did this go anywhere?

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#91: Jan 10th 2012 at 10:27:43 AM

Name crowner was called. This can be marked pending final, it just needs a ton of grunt work.

Now watch me disappear again instead of doing actual work. ;P (Sorry!)

edited 10th Jan '12 10:31:00 AM by Elle

NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#92: Jan 10th 2012 at 5:38:59 PM

I can do the swap.

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#93: Jan 10th 2012 at 6:04:45 PM

Done! The page has been switched out and the old write up is now on Frilly Upgrade and there's a notice up on the Frills of Justice page. We need to move the wicks over, though.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#94: Feb 1st 2012 at 9:46:18 PM

So what exactly remains to be done here?

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#95: Feb 2nd 2012 at 12:57:52 AM

I fixed a spelling error. "Palate" is the roof of your mouth; "palette" is the thing with all the colours on it.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#96: Feb 2nd 2012 at 1:21:52 AM

So are we going to make a trope for the old name? I think that was brought up before.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#97: Feb 2nd 2012 at 6:54:18 PM

There was a sandbox in this thread somewhere.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#98: Feb 10th 2012 at 2:34:25 PM

I tried my hand at sorting and moving the examples as seemed appropriate *

. The ones that appeared to fit a general Magical Girl costume trope were kept as Frills of Justice, the upgrade ones were changed to Frilly Upgrade, and the examples that were unrelated to Magical Girl costumes were snipped. There was a significant amount of misuse for "Frills Are Heroic." If anyone thinks that is worth having as a trope, I have a few examples of it that I could add to a potential YKTTW.

Anyway, the Sandbox page looks fine to me and I think we can go forward with a YKTTW for it. I would be willing to do that later, but if anyone has more time now or has been following this thread more than I have, that person can feel free to make the YKTTW instead.

edited 10th Feb '12 2:35:51 PM by LouieW

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#99: Feb 22nd 2012 at 10:01:53 PM

We can skip YKTTW, probably, if we (and by we I mean "you" ;P but seriously, thanks for the effort) move the correct Frills of Justice examples onto the sandbox page.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#100: Feb 26th 2012 at 7:27:56 PM

Elle,
Sorry for not replying to you right away. Unfortunately, it looks like most of the remaining examples have very little context. If someone who is particularly familiar with the series they mention would like to try to take a look at then and add to the sandbox page, that would probably be a good idea.

The following are the only examples I could really piece together from my very limited knowledge of the works in question. Would it be worth including them on the sandbox page or are we looking for a different kind of example? I guess I am kind of unsure what type of examples Frills of Justice should include. Are we just looking for works that feature traditional Magical Girl outfits?

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edited 26th Feb '12 7:35:23 PM by LouieW

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