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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#11301: May 23rd 2015 at 6:36:55 AM

And to set the record straight, he punched out said Creator not only after said Big Bad went into his One-Winged Angel form for some genuine powering-up, but after said Big Bad depowered Asura back to a slightly damaged version of his most "basic" form in the course of performing a Barehanded Blade Block-style No-Sell of a full-powered punch from Mantra Asura (the strongest of Asura's forms)... with one finger.

Yes, that's right. Asura killed the supreme being of his universe despite the latter being at his strongest state and the former being at his technically weakest state.

edited 23rd May '15 6:38:17 AM by MarqFJA

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NesClassic Inheritor of the Wing from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Inheritor of the Wing
#11302: May 23rd 2015 at 7:34:14 AM

Mentioning Ryuko reminded me to ask.

Would Ryuko Matoi vs. Cyborg Raiden be a close match, or one-sided in Ryuko's favor?

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#11303: May 23rd 2015 at 7:43:25 AM

Raiden is probably in the wrong power level for her. Someone like DMC's Vergil would probably be a better match-up for her.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#11304: May 23rd 2015 at 10:06:57 AM

So Asura takes multiple millennia to revive. But after some practice he can shorten it to the length of an entire job shift.

Kratos takes minutes to revive at the longest. Shoot, in the second game when he "died" he was in the middle of being dragged down into Hades, decided he didn't like that, and climbed right back out. Yeah that's right, Kratos can cancel his own death.

Also Chakravartin is a welp. His final form basically has him LOLNOPE-ing Asura when the latter was at his absolute max...only for this "Creator God" to then get beaten down like a punk by half crippled Asura. That's like saying Superman is supposed to be impressive because he can beat SS 4 Goku yet somehow lose quite handily to Base level Goku.

Even so Asura takes the match easy. Kratos' feats are more impressive and consistent (relatively speaking), sure. But Asura is still way, way, way above his weight class.

edited 23rd May '15 10:13:22 AM by Spirit

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#11305: May 23rd 2015 at 10:53:53 AM

So Asura takes multiple millennia to revive. But after some practice he can shorten it to the length of an entire job shift.

Kratos takes minutes to revive at the longest. Shoot, in the second game when he "died" he was in the middle of being dragged down into Hades, decided he didn't like that, and climbed right back out. Yeah that's right, Kratos can cancel his own death.

Practice, nothing. The guy wasn't even doing it on purpose; he was just so full of Unstoppable Rage that he can break through the barrier between the afterlife and the living world, and it's sort of implied that every time he dies, his rage is increased by a whole new order of magnitude just from the frustration of failing to kill the enemy who killed him/having his quest for both personal vengeance and saving his imprisoned daughter be interrupted, thus explaining why returns faster and faster. And all it took was four times to reduce it to within a few hours.

Also Chakravartin is a welp. His final form basically has him LOLNOPE-ing Asura when the latter was at his absolute max...only for this "Creator God" to then get beaten down like a punk by half crippled Asura. That's like saying Superman is supposed to be impressive because he can beat SS 4 Goku yet somehow lose quite handily to Base level Goku.
I chalk that up to Chakravartin unwittingly driving Asura to even greater heights of rage with his depowering of the Destructor.

edited 23rd May '15 10:54:28 AM by MarqFJA

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#11306: May 23rd 2015 at 11:05:01 AM

Does bring up a point. If person A defeats person B, is that a testament to A's strength, or B's weakness?

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#11307: May 23rd 2015 at 12:44:19 PM

It depends on how stacked are the odds between them, after accounting for each party's strengths and weaknesses.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#11308: May 23rd 2015 at 2:02:01 PM

Asura just entered something that someone calls his Neo-Ultimate state, basically where his rage becomes so ungodly high that he transcends his Destructor form.

Also, Asura would still lose to the Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#11309: May 23rd 2015 at 2:04:33 PM

TTGL vs Madoka.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#11310: May 23rd 2015 at 2:05:32 PM

The Demonbane destroys both.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#11312: May 23rd 2015 at 2:09:30 PM

By forgetting it.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#11313: May 23rd 2015 at 2:10:55 PM

What's a king to a god?
What's a god to a non-believer?

The sad, REAL American dichotomy
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#11314: May 23rd 2015 at 2:14:59 PM

Good point.

Anti-Spiral vs Madoka.

Killing hope is kind of his(?) thing.

edited 23rd May '15 2:15:12 PM by Enlong

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#11315: May 23rd 2015 at 2:41:37 PM

Doesn't matter, the final boss of SRW Z3.3 stomps even Demonbane and STTGL combined.

powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Goddess of Nature
#11316: May 23rd 2015 at 8:16:47 PM

Nah, only true opponent for Madoka is Sailor Moon, :p.

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#11317: May 24th 2015 at 3:18:27 AM

Asura would wipe the floor with sailor moon, let alone Madoka.

It would take someone like Dormammu within his own dimension or during a special celestial alignment to fight Madoka.

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#11318: May 24th 2015 at 6:03:27 AM

Any comment if Snake will face Nick Fury?

If a chicken crosses the road and nobody else is around to see it, does the road move beneath the chicken instead?
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Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#11319: May 24th 2015 at 9:41:48 AM

Madoka vs Sailor Moon would only work if the latter was either Neo Queen Serenity, or maybe Sailor Cosmos.

Even then, I'm not sure if either are physical gods like Madoka became.

Hell, Madoka technically isn't even physical. She's an abstract concept.

There's also the fact that we still don't really know exactly what Sailor Cosmos is. It's never elaborated if she's future Usagi or not.

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powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Goddess of Nature
#11320: May 24th 2015 at 10:17:13 AM

Is Madoka capable of cosmic destruction?

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Daydre That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth from the trash Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth
#11321: May 24th 2015 at 10:23:21 AM

[up]She killed every witch that ever existed. I don't know if that counts as cosmic destruction, but at the very least it's close.

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#11322: May 24th 2015 at 10:26:48 AM

She didn't kill them. she retconned them out of existence by warping to the point of their creation and preventing it. (And that technically isn't even her doing so much as the terms of her wish taking place, so it's a very specific instance not a feat she could replicate on her own)

The only witch she really kills is her own witch self.

edited 24th May '15 10:29:43 AM by Ghilz

Daydre That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth from the trash Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth
#11323: May 24th 2015 at 10:34:59 AM

I thought her wish was to destroy every witch with her own hands? I'm probably remembering wrong or something...

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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#11325: May 24th 2015 at 10:48:14 AM

Nah, her wish is "I wish I had the power to erase witches before they are born. Every single witch from past, present and future." hence she doesn't kill them, she prevents them from happening - letting the Magical Girls who become them pass on peacefully.

edited 24th May '15 10:48:57 AM by Ghilz


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