DEATH BATTLE

Hypothetically the tech level including A.I.s might be more advanced from Miguel's world but I recall that there was a tiny apocalypse between 2000 something and 2099 when all the heroes died

Somewhere in the 2030s, IIRC.

It's "30 years in the future", but the DCAU runs on Achronism Stew with Gotham being a Gothic Art Deco city stuck somewhere in the 30s to 60s, while Metropolis was futuristic. So "30 years from when" is the question.

Speaking of which, what's stopping Lyla from hacking the Batsuit?

Meh, I don't see it as doable on the fly? The only time it happened was with the aforementioned AI, who had hacked the entire city, and converted a gun specifically to upload himself in the bat suit. And even then he only took over once the suit was removed. I don't see someone hacking it on the fly, especially if Bruce is at the other end of the line.

edited 16th Nov '17 4:42:54 PM by Ghilz

I seem to remember the Robert Vance AI having enough control over the Batsuit while Terry was still wearing it to force it to walk to the coast and try to drown its occupant. That said, Terry was fighting Vance/the suit the whole way and I think Bruce managed to regain control just in time to save him. I'll have to rewatch "Lost Soul" to be sure, though.

You might be right? Been like 10 years since I watched it...

It's been a couple years for me. I first watched that episode while binge-watching the series on Netflix (I think it's off of that service now, though). So far, I haven't rewatched it, but the Nightmare Fuel page for the series seems to confirm it:

So, this actually seems worse for Terry than I originally thought. Unless Bruce managed to work some anti-hacking/AI countermeasures into Terry's Batsuit after the Robert Vance incident (and I wouldn't put it past him to do so, but I don't think it was stated that he did, other than rebooting the suit after rescuing Terry), if Lyla can get in, Bruce's only option would be to lock the suit up, which would leave Terry a sitting duck for Miggy until Bruce can personally come in and save him.

I mean, how would she get in anyway? Vance needed a specialized gun to shoot his own programming into the suit.

Via Hollywood Hacking. The same kind of ridiculous mumbo-jumbo that allows for things like a gun that shoots hacking programs.

edited 16th Nov '17 5:29:33 PM by TobiasDrake

Point remains, Miguel needs something to give her access in his gear. Terry's suit is not internet accessible via "Batmansuit.com" - if it were Vance wouldn't have needed the hacking gun. I am asking if he carries something like that. Not if that thing is a realistic tool. Like if she can hack anything Miguel's own suit touches, I'll grant the point. You tell me Miguel carries an antenna he plugs into things? Sure. You tell me miguel shoots "Lira hacks things" beams from his eyes? Sure

edited 16th Nov '17 5:38:25 PM by Ghilz

I'm way more familiar with Batman Beyond than Spider Man 2099.

What was Lyla even capable of aside from being vaguely sinister in the few comics I read?

edited 16th Nov '17 5:48:18 PM by Bocaj

Just got back from rewatching "Lost Soul", and there's a couple of things that stood out in the episode.

First, the Robert Vance AI transfers itself to the Batsuit through an ordinary security laser turret. As Vance was strictly software rather than a hardware modification, it is unlikely that he had to physically modify the laser to transfer himself into the suit. Therefore, there does appear to be some degree of wireless access into the Batsuit, but as I'm not as familiar with Marvel 2099 compared to Batman Beyond, I'm not certain how Lyla hacks computers and if she can exploit it herself (especially since Miggy doesn't carry any laser weapons, as far as I'm aware).

Second, there is a physical access point on the back of the Batsuit's neck, used by both the Vance AI (to upload himself into his own grandson) and Terry (to purge Vance from the ambulatory Batsuit with an electric shock). Again, I'm not sure how Lyla hacks things, so I'm also not certain if she (or Miggy) can exploit this in-battle.

edited 16th Nov '17 6:20:14 PM by TrashJack

Lyla can interface with the Internet, although this leaves her vulnerable to computer viruses - one of which drove her insane and caused her to try to kill Miguel and his girlfriend before she was stopped and repaired by her original programmer.

IIRC Lyla can cover targets in holograms - making the Scorpion appear as Spider-Man so that he'd be attacked by Spider Slayer robots. I'm not sure how applicable it is, but SpOck acquired a copy of Lyla's AI, installed it into his costume's gauntlets, and used it to digitize and transfer his consciousness. He needed his suit - or at least one of his gauntlets - to be in physical contact with the target to do so, however.

edited 16th Nov '17 11:27:11 PM by Arawn999

Could Lyla detect the invisible batsuit? In order to hack Terry, Miguel has to first locate him, and he can't do that immediately without spider-sense.

Miguel is shown to have a Spider-Sense in Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 4 #15, and his current suit has a HUD build into his mask's lenses.

Of course there's wireless access to the Batsuit. From literally the series premiere, we've known that the suit has a killswitch inside that Bruce Wayne can trigger remotely from the Batcave. He's not transmitting that signal via magic.

You don't need to know the physical location of a wireless device in order to network with it.

edited 17th Nov '17 5:21:39 AM by TobiasDrake

Except that we know from the hacking episode that this mechanism is separate from everything else in the suit, since the AI was both stopped by said mechanism, and had to physically destroy the switch controlling it because it couldn't overturn the killswitch. Said AI couldn't hack the failsafe.

But you still need to know it's there and that it's receiving signal, and which signals its receiving and responding to. I don't think the batsuit is projecting a public SSID.

edited 17th Nov '17 6:37:51 AM by Ghilz

I think I'm going to go read 2099

I've had Marvel Unlimited for a while now so I don't know what kept me

A deep and knee jerk aversion to the 90s I guess

...I'm suddenly picturing someone in Gotham setting up the wifi on their phone or game device and noticing a network called "I'M BATMAN" pass by.

edited 17th Nov '17 10:00:45 AM by TobiasDrake

To be honest, I can picture Bruce doing that with the Batmobile or the Batwing.

edited 17th Nov '17 9:26:59 AM by Cross

A wi fi hot spot called Wonderfultoys appears and then disappears

In the Arkham games, that’s basically how Barbara found out Bruce was Batman. She was at Wayne manor for some event, got bored and went off by herself and decided to hack into the network, and then accidently opened a door into the Batcave.

• Batman: How do you always know when I'm coming?!
• Joker: Oh, I connected a cell phone to your wifi hotspot one day because I was bored. Whenever the Batmobile's nearby, I suddenly get pinged by email notifications!

That would be great.

But then Batman forgets his password and can't get back into the network again, because answering the "mother's maiden name" security question is too traumatic.

I just remembered that Penguin and a band of murder carnies of all people managed to hack the Batmobile in Batman Returns

Oh yeah. I forgot about that.

But they put something on it to do so (after bypassing security).