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WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#801: Feb 23rd 2017 at 8:01:31 AM

[up] Plus, Time Travel is involved. If anything, there could be a point where you can go back and prevent disasters from happening in the first place.

edited 23rd Feb '17 8:01:57 AM by WiseMan23753

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#802: Feb 23rd 2017 at 8:08:15 AM

[up]x5 Well, no offense, but I never had a problem with that. Sure, there was every reason to believe they were actually honest-to-God lizards, but there was also every reason to believe they weren't. Before the big reveal, we never once saw just what the 'lizards' actually looked like. They could have been lizards, but they also could have been Big Bird dressed in a bunny-girl outfit and a tutu for all we knew. So when the big reveal finally came, rather than being pissed that they weren't actually giant lizards, I was genuinely shocked, not just at the fact they were actually humans, but also that Geki Ganger turned out to be a major element of the plot rather than just being a Greek Chorus. And I ended up loving the show for it. It was some great commentary on classic anime and how we shouldn't become so obsessed with it and try to base our lives around it, (or anything really,) but that there's still some good things we can take away from it as well. And it still kept the show's general tragicomedy tone intact while it was at it.

Though on the other hand, this is also why you shouldn't go into anything with any expectations whatsoever.tongue

[up][up]So the rampant fanservice and skeeviness doesn't bother you? Like, at all?

edited 23rd Feb '17 9:19:57 AM by kkhohoho

WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#803: Feb 23rd 2017 at 8:21:54 AM

[up] My complaint of the series is how it's trying to say that Magic is evil and makes you complacient. There's how they tortured an innocent girl so unreasonably into something disgraceful. (I know she also was a bigot herself, but that's because she never knew what Norma were.) Furthermore, the Mana people's behavior is very unrealistic and unnatural; Embryo's Mind Control abilities prove it and wouldn't be surprised if they always had been devoid of free will. I think of him controlling their actions through the Light of Mana, much like how Amon from Starcraft II influenced the Zerg and Protoss.

EDIT: I also forgot to add how it says that all Mana users are evil. Then how do you explain Momoka, Ange's parents, Misty and eventually Emma's change of heart? I feel like there are, and were, many others like them who suffered under the anti-Norma regime and paid the price for slight resistance or were even used as disposable tools for Dragon spies.

edited 23rd Feb '17 8:27:22 AM by WiseMan23753

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#804: Feb 23rd 2017 at 8:30:01 AM

[up][up]So the rampant fanservice and skeeviness doesn't bother you? Like, at all?
I see it as a You Bastard! aimed at people who only watch anime for the fanservice, in which case people being pissed off/uncomfortable about the "rampant fanservice and skeeviness" is an Intended Audience Reaction. (with the implied point behind it being "if you're so upset about the rampant fanservice/skeeviness in this show, then why don't you complain about it IN THE REST OF THE FREAKING ANIME INDUSTRY?!")

......so to answer the original question of whether or not it bothers me, yeah, it makes me a bit uncomfortable. So instead of obsessing over it and tweeting my displeasure, I push it to the side and instead find great amusement in Ange's budding sociopathic/misanthropic attitude.

[up]I'm actually not far enough into the series to be able to comment on that.

edited 23rd Feb '17 8:33:23 AM by EvaUnit01

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#805: Feb 23rd 2017 at 8:40:08 AM

I have no discomforts for fanservice in anyway unless it completely derails a plot (see all the bad adaptions of harem manga that are generally far better in manga form then anime, like Maken Ki, To Love Ru, etc). But otherwise, skeeviness has never made me uncomfortable.

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WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#806: Feb 23rd 2017 at 8:47:53 AM

My ultimate complaint is the number of other themes and elements the series stepped on just to get that point across. Sure many people complain about it, but you don't have to go Evangelion-style. Now that CA is in a collection of multiple worlds combined into one, where there a lot more other humans around, Ange should just drop her misanthropic/racist tendencies for once.

edited 23rd Feb '17 8:49:46 AM by WiseMan23753

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#807: Feb 23rd 2017 at 8:55:29 AM

Much as I like Ange as a character thus far, I have to admit that it's probably going to take more than just a Bright Slap to get her to chill out.

Possibly up to and including a Trans-AM Burst.

WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#808: Feb 23rd 2017 at 9:09:20 AM

Heh, I can see that.

Furthermore, I'd like someone giving several other CA characters the Bright Slap. Specifically Rosalie, Jill and Hilda for the abuse they've done to the poor girl.

Though one must wonder how Emma is going to handle a bunch of non-magic users that are not under Mana/Arzenal authority. Hopefully, that'll give her some Character Development early on.

WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#809: Feb 23rd 2017 at 10:37:14 AM

A supporting change would actually be Ange's misanthrope persona. The only reason she developed that is because she only knew the vile Mana, the proclaimed vile Norma, humanoid Dragons and only a few Ancient Humans, both being perverts. Now, you have a wide variety of other humans with much lighter-hearted personalities. Saying the other humans who come into this world are also complacient self-serving pigs is really gonna give her a smack in the mouth.

Funny thought, imagine Hilda giving a Starlight Breaker to her new friend as a form of a Bright Slap.

EDIT: Just found a video regarding Cross Ange. They're in right after Zola was killed. Bad news there.

That's still good news as there's a chance you can change the story of Rondo. Furthermore, there are response options you can choose.

edited 23rd Feb '17 12:44:18 PM by WiseMan23753

WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#810: Feb 23rd 2017 at 12:01:27 PM

(shifted up)

edited 23rd Feb '17 12:33:33 PM by WiseMan23753

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#811: Feb 23rd 2017 at 12:23:45 PM

[up] dude, stop triple posting, just edit your original post using the edit symbol.

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#812: Feb 23rd 2017 at 12:35:20 PM

I'm kinda disappointed we didn't get a HD version of this Graham's attacks in V. BX had some really awesome attacks for a handheld SRW

edited 23rd Feb '17 12:37:27 PM by AlphaVII

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#813: Feb 23rd 2017 at 1:25:01 PM

I've just finished stage 14. It's weird, but I feel like the characters - and the game itself - have quietly agreed to forget that the people of Arzenal tortured Ange for no real reason.

Also, Ange only has room for five spirit commands. No spoilers, but this is rather suspicious.

edited 23rd Feb '17 1:25:23 PM by MightyMatilda

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WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#814: Feb 23rd 2017 at 1:36:27 PM

That...doesn't sound too good. Maybe they're unaware of it?

What about the options? There are choices available in the game and it's seems you can choose to go one of two places.

EDIT: [up] Maybe it's because she hasn't unlocked the modes to Villiss yet.

edited 23rd Feb '17 1:37:35 PM by WiseMan23753

ExeloMinish Since: Oct, 2010
#815: Feb 23rd 2017 at 2:33:56 PM

[up][up]Some games have characters have a spirit or two locked behind plot events so you can't get them early through raw leveling. Usually stuff like Love or Courage that makes sense to only show up after character development.

WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#816: Feb 23rd 2017 at 2:46:00 PM

Moreover, I saw some future scenes of the game. Ange appears to have said "Screw You!" To Arzenal and leaves with the SRW team. And they just fought the Gravity Master Dragon with a couple more scenarios afterward, so Sylvia won't be seeing her sister for a long time.

WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#817: Feb 23rd 2017 at 7:50:27 PM

Just saw the next videos that introduced Rondo. Fortunatley, it appears that they only implied rape scenes.

It seems that after Rondo, the paths start to split up. I'm guessing on the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism, following the path of one series also determines the ending based on where it is on the scale. But that's just a theory; Super Robot Wars is supposed to be about making happy endings as far as I'm aware; even modern ones do so in a more realistic sense.

Also, which was found a while back, Mana is allied with the Earth Federation. All so they can do their own thing without getting backlash for their treatment of the Norma. While they could normally see those without Mana to be subhuman monsters, too, they are somehow smart enough not to pick on other nations.

EDIT: Not sure about Julio though, he seems far too unstable to consider ANY non-Mana user worth living.

edited 23rd Feb '17 8:05:07 PM by WiseMan23753

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#818: Feb 23rd 2017 at 8:02:27 PM

[up]

Super Robot Wars is supposed to be about making happy endings

You know, just this once, I'd like to see a SRW that intentionally gives every single one of its' series its' worst possible ending ever. BOOM! Third Impact happens! BLAMMO! The world gets turned into a radioactive wasteland! SHAZAM! Kouji gets corrupted by Mazinger Zero and destroys the world well over 1000 times, Hathaway Bright gets his head chopped off thanks to his own unwitting father, and the Ideon blows up EVERYTHING. And why should they do such a thing, you may ask? Because they can. >:D (JK. Mostly.)

edited 23rd Feb '17 8:05:23 PM by kkhohoho

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#819: Feb 23rd 2017 at 9:09:22 PM

Right now (finished stage 18), I kinda regret taking the Arsenal route, if only because it means I missed the introductions of Zambot and Daitarn 3. I'm also disappointed that Evangelion is taking its time show up.

I like the SP system; it reminds me of Final Fantasy Tactics A2. Anyone play that game?

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WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#820: Feb 23rd 2017 at 9:27:45 PM

I'm guess that the story is railroading the original plot line? sad

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#821: Feb 23rd 2017 at 9:34:36 PM

Man, Seeing Getter Robo and Mazinger sparing with one another brings a manly tear to my eye...

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WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#822: Feb 23rd 2017 at 9:41:26 PM

[up][up][up] Any meetings with the Mana leaders and/or Embryo yet?

Also noticed, if Rondo shares the same world as the other nations, then wouldn't the other nations intervene after the Light of Mana was shut off? There's has to be some kind of change for at least interactions with Sylvia as far as that's concerned.

edited 24th Feb '17 5:30:25 AM by WiseMan23753

WiseMan23753 Since: Sep, 2011
#823: Feb 24th 2017 at 7:16:35 PM

First, I'm bumping this.

Second, who ever talked about Lord Djibril being in this series, some reply now.

Last but not least, Embryo, you bastard!

MachThreeSlug Since: Dec, 2011
#824: Feb 25th 2017 at 7:48:26 PM

Mazinger Zero and Mazin Emperor G attacks. Except this time they're in English.

Apparently most of Mazinger Zero's attacks are dynamic kills. Kinda fitting really.

Edit: As a side note: That preview image for the Mazin Emperor G vid looks fucking awesome. I kinda want to draw fanart of it.

edited 25th Feb '17 8:27:16 PM by MachThreeSlug

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#825: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:47:38 PM

wild mass guess Mazin Emperor Z was created to be a part of the new Mazinger movie.wild mass guess

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