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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#5401: Feb 10th 2016 at 9:48:36 PM

If you want to be pedantic about it, Ragnarok means "final destiny of the gods", while Ragnarokkr is the one that means "Twilight of the gods".

edited 10th Feb '16 9:48:47 PM by Gaon

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#5402: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:31:07 AM

@Bad: ...Even if that definition is accurate (and I think you're seriously stretching it here), there's no guarantee that that's what they were thinking of when they picked that title. For example, the second season opener of Justice League was called "Twilight", and is anything but peaceful.

edited 11th Feb '16 12:32:08 AM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#5403: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:42:14 AM

Yikes. I'm on iTunes and Rebels vol. 3. is at 1 1/2 of 5 stars. A lot of people feel ripped off. I know other kid shows on iTunes that split a single season into "volumes" with no rhyme or reason and no one complains about those.

edited 11th Feb '16 12:44:31 AM by DS9guy

NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#5404: Feb 11th 2016 at 5:51:14 AM

"Twilight of the Apprentice" could very well be a Double-Meaning Title. You know, Ahsoka might get killed by Vader, but then this could also be Ezra's fall to the Dark Side, courtesy of Old Master. They aren't mutually exclusive. On the contrary, if Vader kills 'Soka, Ezra would want revenge, and Old Master is there for him. That way we could get Vader vs Ahsoka AND Vader vs Maul.

Anyway, I'm disappointed at the one-shot/filler nature of the episodes up to now. They should really get into an Overarching Plot already. I mean, world-building is nice, but I think it's becoming too much.

Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5406: Feb 11th 2016 at 7:09:05 AM

[up][up][up]I think this specific issues is because people already preordered the season before it was split. They're mad because they aren't getting what they paid for.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#5408: Feb 11th 2016 at 1:16:43 PM

Numa! grin

edited 11th Feb '16 1:16:56 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#5409: Feb 11th 2016 at 2:07:19 PM

Twilight of the Apprentice could also basically mean that a padawan ceases to be. As in, becomes a true jedi. Although Ahsoka is unlikely to survive, it might also mean Ezra doing something amazing enough so that Kanan considers him as a peer and not a student.

Because Ezra going to the dark side would kinda come out of nowhere. Or at least it would come out of one or two episodes where his personal is really different from his usual self.

TempestKnight Tempest Knight from Toronto Since: Dec, 2014
#5410: Feb 11th 2016 at 3:32:13 PM

[up]Not necessarily. He's had brushes with the Dark Side before, such as when he summoned the giant fyrnock, or during his rampage in Season 2 Episode 9 (at least by implication). While I can't see him going to the Dark Side knowingly, it wouldn't take much effort to trick him, or to get him to use it unintentionally.

Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5411: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:05:51 PM

I wouldn't say it comes out of nowhere. Ezra succumbing to the Dark Side has been heavily foreshadowed.

NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#5412: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:07:37 PM

[up][up] This is exactly where his Start of Darkness is foreshadowed. ( [nja] ) And think about it - resisting the Dark Side seems to require disciplined training from a very early age. Anakin did not have it and the tutelage of Obi-Wan, a freshly knighted Jedi with no mentoring experience, proved not to be enough. Ezra is the logical extreme of that, having begun apprenticeship at 15 under a Padawan whose training stopped when he was the same age. Add the fact that he's a teenager who recently lost his parents and his home, and his chances for growing up a balanced person become slim.

Then again, there's Luke who never heard about the Force until he was 19, had a single day of training with Obi-Wan in which he lost his foster parents, and half a year with Yoda in the middle of a Trauma Conga Line... but still Kanan is neither Yoda not Obi-Wan.

Speaking of, Ezra meets Yoda. Perhaps he is the reason Yoda is so reluctant to train Luke?

edited 11th Feb '16 4:11:03 PM by NhazUl

FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#5414: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:15:48 PM

... Geez The Kanan x Hera Subtext can't get no thicker

edited 11th Feb '16 6:16:08 PM by FrozenWolf2

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#5415: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:26:39 PM

It was suppose to be subtext?

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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5416: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:28:11 PM

Aren't they already in a relationship?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#5417: Feb 11th 2016 at 7:01:40 PM

Maybe? Kinda?

They're about as in love as a roguish drifter running away from his past and a headstrong young rebel fighting for something greater than herself can be. This is the stuff melodramatic romance books were practically invented for, folks.

It's a miracle they're not blathering on about sand, actually.

edited 11th Feb '16 7:02:21 PM by KnownUnknown

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NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#5418: Feb 12th 2016 at 6:03:25 AM

[up] It's no miracle. Lucas isn't writing the dialogue, after all.

The question is, why does Cham not approve? As far as he knows, a Jedi isn't a bad dating option for his daughter.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#5419: Feb 12th 2016 at 6:09:11 AM

Who knows why Hera and Cham aren't talking. Maybe they'll go the average 'father didn't want daughter to become () and is upset she didn't listen'.

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Werebazs from Hungary Since: Sep, 2011
#5420: Feb 12th 2016 at 10:55:04 AM

To me, it seems like Hera's the more distant one. maybe Cham is too brutal in his fight for her taste?

Regarding Ezra...I don't think he'll fall to the Dark Side. I'm sure he will be tempted, but I believe when push comes to shove, he'll resist the Dark Side.
Think about it: Luke had a pretty "good" life growing-up. Hard as hell, sure, but he had a family, he had friends, and he grew-up free, and when the time of his adventure came, he proved to be the Wide-Eyed Idealist Incorruptible Pure Pureness Ideal Hero. Anakin grew-up a slave, most of his "friends" weren't exactly supportive, his only healthy relation was to his mother, and then he got a stick-in-the-mud like Obi-Wan as a father figure, and he ended-up a volatilely passionate, antihero.
Ezra's path combines parts of other two's path: he had his family taken away (Anakin), but found a loving adoptive family (Luke). He's rather passionate, but also increadibly wide-eyed. It makes sense, that his destination would be between the two (Antihero destined to fall and Incorruptable ideal hero) as well.

edited 12th Feb '16 10:56:26 AM by Werebazs

Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
To be a Master
#5421: Feb 12th 2016 at 12:21:32 PM

[up] Well, the synopsis for Homecoming states that "while coordinating a plan to overtake and steal the carrier that houses these Imperial bombers, the rebels discover that Cham may have a plan of his own." I'm betting on a Jet-like situation here.

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#5422: Feb 12th 2016 at 1:08:06 PM

So, about "The Call." Is it just assumed that they were in some poisonous atmosphere or something? Because I can't even count all the issues with exposure.

Especially at the end when Kanan and Ezra are explicitly standing in open space with regular clothes and loose fitting helmets.

edited 12th Feb '16 3:16:40 PM by TheAirman

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#5423: Feb 12th 2016 at 7:32:13 PM

Star Wars physics does not match the physics of our universe.

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#5424: Feb 12th 2016 at 8:44:20 PM

Like how Han and crew were able to venture out into the interior of an atmosphere-less asteroid with little more than a helmet and oxygen pack.

No wait, technically they were in the belly of a giant space worm inside of an asteroid. tongue

illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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#5425: Feb 12th 2016 at 9:25:37 PM

I assumed they were just in the upper atmosphere.


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