Atlas Shrugged getting several movies

o_O "The hippies of the right" is a quote from Ayn Rand about libertarians, I really should've made that clear, sorry.

Was replying to someone two posts above mine...

Still, accidentally tricking tvtropes into agreeing with something Ayn Rand said is...a thing. A definite thing.

^Wait what, reading the useful notes page on Objectivism, I thought Objectivism agreed with Libertarianism in arguing that the State is restricted to defending against negative liberty (which I interpreted as a basic police force a la the securitrons in New Vegas)

But that quote...is Ayn Rand just really contradictory or am I missing something?

Ayn Rand was just crazy. That is all.

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However, she managed do something nobody with her particular kind of crazy had ever done before- she wrapped it up in a reasonably convincing shell of a philosophy.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.

that's not true plenty of other have done that

Humour, where would we be without it? In Germany, probably

I'm fairly sure you're right, but do you have any examples?

yey

Scientology?

Ah. Good draw, I missed that one for some reason.

yey

Not sure if this is what Rand meant, but I've heard people define libertarians as something like "Republicans who smoke pot", which would make the hippie comparison understandable.

Also, in one of the Ayn Rand threads, someone had noted that John Galt has some surprising similarities to a supervillain. That made me realize something. Steve Ditko was an Objectivist, and now that I think of it, the idea that high school student Peter Parker could create advanced web-shooters- not too unbelievable in light of Galt's perpetual motion machine.

Come to think of it, the Spider Man villain Shocker and villain-turned hero Prowler have rather Galt-like backgrounds. Both were working class schlubs who had genius inventor talents which society didn't recognize/respect.

Hodor

Of course, their talent wasn't recognized mainly because they decided to go out robbing banks, rather than patenting their inventions and making a mint. . .

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From what I've read on this site, at least in Ultimate Spider-Man, the Shocker tried to make legitimate money with his invention, but the company he worked for took all the credit, thus causing him to begin his life of crime.

You're an ad hominem attack!

Ultimate Spider-Man did not have Ditko's guidance, to my knowledge.

Also, whenever I hear of Libertarians in the area, I pull out a can of RAID.

edited 22nd Feb '11 4:15:56 PM by Scardoll

Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.

Which is a standard revenge motive, more than "I cannot be a success legitimately." After all, if he's that calibre of an inventive genius, he could *quit* the company and make something else. Perhaps after finding a new company that is willing to offer a better contract.

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Maybe Shocker's just a One-Hit Wonder.

You're an ad hominem attack!

Let me clarify- I'm not saying that Shocker is a representative of Objectivist thought- far from it- Objectivists and probably everyone would agree that robbing banks is a stupid way to use technological innovations.

However, I can see why while the Science Hero (and the villain equivalent) isn't an inherently Objectivist idea, it would have a lot of appeal to an Objectivist writer.

You can see it in Tony Stark too- this whole idea that kind of argues against poverty being a bar to success, given that all of these characters can create amazing stuff in their basement/in a cave with a box of scraps.

Hodor

You all tangentially remind me of the 'Tarnished Angel' story arc from Astro City, which had some of the best ( if depressing ) insights into low end supervillain psychology I've seen.

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The best thing about this movie is that Armin Shimerman is in it.

132 is the rudest number.

He's sunk so low, though. From DS 9 to this... that's tragic.

Yes, I view going from Star Trek to more 'mainstream' fare as being a step down for an actor's career. I know how messed up my priorities are, thank you.

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not really this is a terrible movie that probably wont do well critically or commercially and thats a reasonably popular television series so I don't you're assessment is off

edited 25th Feb '11 6:56:50 AM by faradayangel

Humour, where would we be without it? In Germany, probably

^^This also isn't "mainstream fare." At all.

It's an independent project funded by someone who has never worked in the film industry before and is relying on a small distributor that mainly works in marketing Christian films that will likely get a handful of screenings in a few major cities in the US (but mostly concentrating on areas in dyed-in-the-wool Red States) before heading straight to video store shelves.

edited 25th Feb '11 10:52:15 AM by SeanMurrayI

By "mainstream fare", I was referring to works outside the Sci Fi Ghetto.

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I find this funny, given that Atlas Shrugged is something of an anti-Christian book.

Fanfiction I hate.

Seriously, objectivism is pretty much the antithesis of Christianity. Rand's even opposed to altruism.

Which is why it's such a perfect fit for the Christian Right (which is neither Christian nor right, anyway) and Archconservative movements in America.

INTERVIEWER: "So Atlus, what do you think of all these movies you're getting?" ATLUS: *shrugs*