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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#8826: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:13:02 AM

Perhaps eroges and porns are something like... necessary evil or necessary gray to keep us away from pre-marital sex and rape?

If porn is the only thing keeping a shithead from raping someone, they have more problems than just that.

. . .honestly that entire post is dripping with creepy.

Mhazard Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#8827: Mar 2nd 2017 at 11:12:20 AM

Forgive me, it's just my personal theory, and the result may vary, one person's solution might be another person's temptation. So, don't take my words too seriously.

(Still, a world where every man can only indulge into porns instead of being able to find a love interest can be quite tragic.)

Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#8828: Mar 2nd 2017 at 11:21:58 AM

Like I said, my giving up porn for Lent is to help with mental health and hypersexuality. I hold no regard for conservative sexual mores, they're a large part of the reason I'm so mentally screwed up when it comes to sexuality.

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#8829: Mar 2nd 2017 at 11:41:46 AM

I don't watch porn at all (I find the whole voyeurism aspect to be uncomfortable, but that's just me) But I don't feel sexually repressed as a result. I don't think someone watching it in moderation is a bad thing, or even unhealthy. But from what I've heard, it's something that can easily take over your life and become an addiction. I've heard that taking time off can be a very rejuvenating experience, even if it's a bit hard at first, so I commend you for trying

phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#8830: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:09:30 PM

@Sixth Yeah that makes sense.

ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Red Spade, Black Heart
#8831: Mar 2nd 2017 at 3:53:54 PM

I have a fairly low sex drive and haven't looked at porn since high school. Well, not porn porn, at any rate. Sometimes I indulge in stuff that caters to my geeky turn-ons.

I feel bad, though. When I started dating my girlfriend, I resolved to stop looking at anything kinky, but sometimes I give in to temptation. I feel more than a little ashamed when I do it, but I know that I'm going to cave again in a few weeks or months. I don't know how to break the cycle.

(Also, this is in response to something someone said earlier, but I emphatically do not believe that homosexuality is a sin. Jesus never said it was. I think it's unchristian to judge people for their sexual orientation.)

Is that a Wocket in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#8833: Mar 3rd 2017 at 6:51:37 AM

I would make a difference between merely being attracted and the actual act. Otherwise single heterosexuals are sinning because they don't have a wife/husband to be the entire focus of their attraction. Isn't lust when someone fantasizes about having sex with a person(super creepy!) and not just thinking that sad person is very attractive? Though, I'm not interested in sex at all, so I probably shouldn't be in the conversation. I'd rather have some yummy cake and candy.

edited 3rd Mar '17 6:53:05 AM by bookworm6390

phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#8834: Mar 3rd 2017 at 8:24:02 AM

Yeah I'm not sure how much I could say about you shouldn't fantasize about people, like it's not like it's something I would do, so I can't say I have much stake in it.

Also yeah wouldn't say being gay is a sin and it matters what sort of porn you watch in that area. (Whether it's straight or not).

edited 3rd Mar '17 8:24:24 AM by phantom1

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#8835: Mar 3rd 2017 at 8:59:36 AM

Well, it(fantasizing) just sounds creepy to me. But I'm a naive virgin, so ...

Korodzik Since: Jan, 2001
#8836: Mar 3rd 2017 at 11:10:37 AM

I have a request. My father is currently in the hospital and I'm seriously worried about him — I'd appreciate your prayers.

edited 3rd Mar '17 11:16:18 AM by Korodzik

ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Red Spade, Black Heart
#8837: Mar 3rd 2017 at 2:44:54 PM

I'll pray for him. He's going to be all right, you'll see. smile

Is that a Wocket in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#8838: Mar 3rd 2017 at 3:09:24 PM

You got it brudda.

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
Murataku Jer gets all the girls from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Jer gets all the girls
#8839: Mar 4th 2017 at 2:06:21 AM

Same here.

Also it kinda takes a weight off my mind, seeing you guys in here mentioning vices and stuff. Makes me feel a bit less bad about having my own vices.

Everybody's all "Jerry's old and feeble" till they see him run down a skyscraper and hijack a helicopter mid-flight.
crimsonstorm15 shine on from A parallel universe Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#8841: Mar 4th 2017 at 8:06:37 AM

Indeed. I feel like this is a better place for me to be than church sometimes because we can actually discuss things.

Mhazard Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#8842: Mar 4th 2017 at 8:45:49 AM

Speaking of vice, perhaps I've done much worse than everyone here lol, considering that I've posted numerous entries of fanservice-y drawings and nude anime figures to Flickr (the latter is for bringing more people to my album, but to be honest, Orchidseed Alleyne is a well-made figure even for today's standard, and I appreciate cute and well-endowed stuff), the only step I haven't actually done is to draw NSFW art and post them to Pixiv, I don't have the guts to do that. tongue

To me, my motto is "if something is beautiful, as long as it isn't sinful, why shouldn't we appreciate it?" Beauty and human body are the same, there's nothing wrong about them.

(I'm Going to Hell for This..)

By the way, I'm not sure if owning a classic D&D starter set count. A month ago, I've got D&D Dragon Quest starter set from a charity set (I'd upload mine once I cleaned up all school test stuff), it's an enjoyable set, although not many people in Hong Kong actually heard of D&D except several of my school professors who actually played AD&D a decade ago.

edited 4th Mar '17 8:52:49 AM by Mhazard

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#8843: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:09:25 AM

Being an arrogant self righteous jerk(not anyone here, just in general) would be worse than y'all's vices. It's better to act like an animal or child than to act like a demon. Of course we aren't perfect, that's why we need Jesus!

ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Red Spade, Black Heart
#8844: Mar 4th 2017 at 3:23:01 PM

Having vices is normal and human, but it isn't good. It's something we should try to overcome, even while acknowledging that it may not be possible ("All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God," i.e. human nature gets in the way). I'm definitely glad I can talk to you guys about my problems, though, and I'm happy to listen to yours.

What do you think I should do to dissuade myself from looking at kinky stuff? Again, no porn—no nudity, in fact!—but still stuff I find, y'know, appealing. I promised myself I'd stop now that I have a girlfriend, but I'm finding it hard to give it up.

Is that a Wocket in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
Mhazard Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#8845: Mar 4th 2017 at 6:50:51 PM

Of course, the reason why I seemed to be overly lenient to myself is because I'm single, and I'm aware that I'd be single for the rest of my life. And I'd never have a girlfriend no matter what, I could've given up my standard and pick an incredibly flat, ugly but kindhearted person, but that's not what I wanted. It's not likely I can marry a person both kindhearted and well-endowed in reality, so, why bother thinking about marriage and tormenting myself when I can be a cheerful, happy Manchild instead?

Overall, the existence of porn makes me realise that well-endowed girls do exist (although they're incredibly rare, and I'll never have one, never, considering that I'm an incredibly geeky person without social skills.), and I often use them for drawing reference (especially Jiggle Physics if you're an animator), on the other hand, the process of how a porn is made is quite tragic, and I heard that some actresses were filmed against their will. It's more of a double edged sword.

Anyway, I'm more of a Chivalrous Pervert than anything evil.

edited 4th Mar '17 7:41:55 PM by Mhazard

CorvusAtrox from the Dueling Arena Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#8847: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:17:50 AM

Thrice: Never had a significant other before, so you can ignore this, but talk with her about it, maybe? Like, if you've already brought it up, or if it'd be too awkward of a conversation or your girlfriend's already expressed that she isn't fond of a given kink, then -shrugs-. I dunno, I guess my only advice for relationships is communicate and know how people feel about things?

MHazard: Er, some of the thoughts you've expressed are sounding kinda Madonna-Whore Complex-y. I really think getting away from that kind of thinking would be a good thing when things are more complex and wonderful than that. I mean, there are women in this thread you've talked with and I can't say I really speak for them, but I dunno how they feel about being put in boxes like that? Like, I have a type and things that I'd like if an SO had, but what I want first and foremost is a friend. And that we've mutually decided we want to try being more than friends, but we are still friends at the core.

Like, I dunno, sorry if that was rant-y and you'd rather not have advice in this regard, but I feel like you'll be happier if you stop thinking about things that way and I at least think more women would be happier with an SO who didn't think of them like that? I at least know I'd want an SO like that.

edited 5th Mar '17 6:20:10 AM by CorvusAtrox

"life is just a series of increasingly canon-eluding ao3 tags" ~ everydunsparce "Keep your hellfruit away from me, tempter" ~ also Every
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#8848: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:22:42 AM

You're not gonna get very far with anyone if you objectify them like that. That's a horribly misogynistic attitude to have.

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#8849: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:53:11 AM

I'm a woman, I am resentful of the idea that a woman can either be an ugly Madonna or a pretty whore, lest she be on this shrouded pedestal of "unattainableness." The "perfect girl" is a prize that no one can get. I like to think that I'm nice and at least somewhat physically attractive, and I hate being objectified as this prize that the poor nerdy guys can't get, but may someday be rewarded if they're lucky enough. I'm not a prize. I can date whomever I want, and also do whatever I want without the fear of being tipped onto the other side of the Madonna-Whore Complex. (With all the ways society likes to unjustly judge women, it is really hard staying in the middle of that complex let me tell you, and I don't always feel like putting up an effort)

And I'm also a geeky person with no social skills. And a woman at the same time. I'm also sick of the narrative as the man as the Socially Awkward Hero trying to get the Madonna woman. Girls can be socially awkward too, it's not just the geeky men trying to obtain these graceful creatures all the time

edited 5th Mar '17 6:55:15 AM by Cailleach

Mhazard Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#8850: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:55:44 AM

Forgive me, there weren't many people I can talk to. Maybe I was pushing myself too hard. Anyway, I feel better now.

edited 5th Mar '17 9:09:36 AM by Mhazard


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