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So guys get this, Pot of Duplicity kicks arse. Since it's not Limited like Avarice was (I see that as subject to change come December) it can be used pretty reliably when one's extra deck cards all end up in the Graveyard to put them back there, especially since most extra decks are hilariously divergent (mine in Heraldic Beasts has 2 Sea Serpents, 3 Rocks, 3 Warriors, one Beast, one Fairy, one Plant, 2 Psychics, one Fiend and one Reptile, not to mention that the main deck adds Winged-Beasts, Machines and Dragons to the fray) it's even pretty splashable to anyone who uses their extra a lot.

edited 29th Sep '13 2:53:55 PM by Plumbum

It's definitely a pretty decent recovery option. I run a couple of copies in a few of my decks and would probably use it in a few more if they had space.

It's kind of hilarious seeing Tidal Merlantians ragequit from my Ice Barriers before I even summon Prior to revive anything (and no, I don't have Shock Troops in the deck)

So, the YGO-verse is full of really powerful beings that are nevertheless not Duel Monsters: Horakhty, the Leviathan, the Light of Ruin, the Crimson Dragon, the Red Nova, and of course Zorc. Since Horakhty got made into a card, would you like to see any of the others get that treatment, too?

Zorc got made into a card, kind of. Dark Master Zorc.

Levia-Dragon Daedulus seems officially familiar, as it's based a lot upon the Atlantis stuff. Not saying he is a reference to the Anime, but it could be possible.

Rest, doesn't seem so unless I missed something.

Zorc is...kind of ancient evil Zorc, in the sense that that Zorc's the inspiration for evil Bakura's D&D campaign final boss.

I don't think Daedalus and the Great Leviathan are the same thing. Mainly because it'd make no sense for the Orichalcos god to have an ability tied to Umi of all things.

The Light of Ruin could be...interesting. And I haven't seen enough 5Ds to comment on the others.

Also, you left Ma'at off that list. The greatest cheating bastard in the franchise demands you acknowledge its existence. >.> <.<

The archtype is based around Atlantis as well. Which the Leviathan kind of has a key point to.

Levia-Dragon is based upon a Leviathan, obviously. It's in the name. Levia-Dragon came out too late, though. So they just have some neat coincidences is what they're related to.

But I'm pretty sure Dark Master Zorc was based upon the ultimate Big Bad overall.

The art's kind of clearly the D&D monster. Not to mention his ritual spell showing him transforming out of his human disguise. Also, dice based effect seems like a bit of a reference to the fact that he was a tabletop RPG character. Also, high roll = bad in that RPG, a 6 for Zorc = extremely bad.

Again, since it was dark Bakura's D&D game, the Zorc it's based on was almost definitely inspired by Necrophades, but it's not him unless Bakura trapped his evil god in a miniature where he risked being killed by a bad dice roll.

edited 29th Sep '13 7:34:50 PM by tachikaze

I'd like to see a faithful yet less broken Diabound Kernel.

This kinda looks like a less broken version of that effect. Albeit without the effect stealing.

Ssssupppp?

edited 29th Sep '13 7:46:58 PM by Krika

I vaguely recall a friend telling me that Majestic Star Dragon already is the physical incarnation of the Crimson Dragon or something

I never watched those episodes though so idk for sure

It shouldn't be, since that leaves Majestic Red Dragon out in the rain.

If anything, the closest would be Shooting Quasar Dragon, since it was made out of 5/6 Signer Dragons.

The Majestic Signer Dragons are just what happens when the Crimson Dragon gives the relevant dragons the metaphorical upgrade from "Angel" to "Avatar" . At least, that's how I interpret it.

So theoretically there could be Majestic forms of all of them, but of course only Tai and Matt make it to Mega as usual.

Red Nova Dragon is supposed to pretty much be the Red Nova, but I'd like a card of its Tezcatlipoca form, even though that's not the right mythology.

edited 29th Sep '13 8:49:33 PM by HamburgerTime

Well, I always thought of it as Red Nova given a contained form via Red Dragon Archfiend - the essence is all Red Nova in there, but because the binding was formed using Red Dragon Archfiend, it's form mimicked it (the fact that it was a Signer Dragon probably helped a lot there).

Which also makes sense for why 2 Tuners would be needed - it needed the extra stabilization on the summoning, if you think of tuners as what guide the energy of the Synchro Summon. *shrugs*

There is a card called Red Nova Dragon.

Just saying.

We are aware, as noted above. It's just not the pure form of it. This is my take on it's pure form. Red Nova Dragon is Red Nova after Jack Atlas made it his bitch.

Would those effects stack? If so, yowza. Fitting for a big boss monster.

edited 29th Sep '13 9:21:22 PM by HamburgerTime

If the wording implies that the effects don't stack, then that's wrong, because hells yes they stack. Although getting the 5 and 7 ones are trickier, since you'd have to have summoned that many Earthbound Immortal monsters to pull it off. In essence, if you have gotten to the point where you can get the later ones, then getting a stupid powerful boss is probably a fair trade for all the resources you put into getting to that point (and not having won/lost already).

I wonder what it would take to make Divine Serpent and Knight of Destiny workable? Obviously they couldn't literally have infinite stats, but maybe first to break the 5000 barrier?

One thing I found interesting about Red Nova, too: he's implied to be more powerful than the King of the Underworld. The Crimson Dragon stuffed the King in a can just fine, but all the Dragons plus the Legendary Signer were needed for Red Nova. Dragon-in-Chief?

edited 29th Sep '13 9:25:20 PM by HamburgerTime

Dev Pro has versions of them, although I think they might've been kind of underwhelming. Their version of Divine Serpent just has attack and defence equal to its owner's life points, while Knight of Destiny has 2800 attack, can't be destroyed by battle, can attack again if it destroys a monster by battle and can make its attack equal to the attack of an opponent's monster if it's attacked by something stronger than it.

...Then again, whoever wrote the anime cards for Dev Pro seems to like taking some massive liberties if their version of Toon Kingdom's anything to go by. >.>

edited 29th Sep '13 9:27:58 PM by tachikaze

Speaking of infinite ATK, in middle school I sat at the same lunch table as this guy who was a big fan, but who had... interesting ideas about how the game was played, for instance thinking the "sacrifice two monsters, Obelisk gets INFINITE STRENGTH!" thing worked in Real Life. Then again, this was before Obelisk had a "real" effect, so...

Well, it depends on whether or not the Legendary Signer's Burning Soul was gifted to him as part of his Signer Mark, or if it was a seperate power - I think they're related, personally. What's important is that Burning Soul is apparently supposed to allow the user to channel the powers of the Crimson Dragon directly - implying that normal Signers can't channel the full power of the Crimson Dragon. This would make the Crimson Dragon stronger than Red Nova, but unable to use it's full power without the conduit for some reason - inherent limiters to it's power, or perhaps human will and drive are needed somehow?

And if they're separate, then it might just be the Crimson Dragon super-charging it. But I personally, as mentioned, don't think that's accurate.

edited 29th Sep '13 9:33:50 PM by Krika

Sounds just like me. The amount of times I won by using Ra's 'LP to 1' effect...