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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

commentspaee A humbled version of Halara Nightmare from Kanai Ward Since: May, 2023 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
A humbled version of Halara Nightmare
#3226: Mar 21st 2024 at 11:05:35 AM

...All of them? When they're soft split underneath the wider organization they're part of? That'll look rather uneven.

Denial is a weakness. A WEAKNESS.
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#3227: Mar 21st 2024 at 11:44:58 AM

[up] What do you mean?

If you mean moving Amaterasu Corporation and The Peacekeepers together, I think that's fine too (and IIRC ironically what I've suggested when it was brought up the first time)

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lexii from London Since: Jul, 2009
#3228: Mar 21st 2024 at 12:55:24 PM

Hi all,

Stock Foreign Name has been split into four sub-pages, though in total the original page was only 180k characters and so well under the typical page warning/suggestion trigger, which from reading the ATT chat I came across didn't seem to have happened.

Should these be merged back? (was it discussed here before the split?)

Edited by lexii on Mar 21st 2024 at 7:58:35 PM

Ruderuby Since: Jul, 2022
#3229: Mar 21st 2024 at 1:00:06 PM

Frozen (2013) has reached over 250,000 bytes and has gotten the warning. Should it be split into multiple pages?

Edited by Ruderuby on Mar 21st 2024 at 9:02:37 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#3230: Mar 21st 2024 at 1:58:35 PM

GetAStupidAnswer.Video Games is displaying the warning. I don't have any idea of how to split it off at the moment.

Smashman2893 Since: Sep, 2021
#3231: Mar 21st 2024 at 4:15:51 PM

[up] GetAStupidAnswer.Live Action Films, GetAStupidAnswer.Music, and GetAStupidAnswer.Tropes are also displaying the warning.

Edit:GetAStupidAnswer.Music has a quote from Peter Pan that has a bunch of answers under it and should probably be moved to GetAStupidAnswer.Animated Films

Edited by Smashman2893 on Mar 21st 2024 at 7:19:38 AM

Ayumi-chan low-poly Shinri from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
low-poly Shinri
#3232: Mar 21st 2024 at 8:47:16 PM

I made pages for the Ouroboros members:

How do they look?

She/Her | Currently cleaning Char Clone
NoonboryKedabory Fanfic Advertiser from Toobalooba Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fanfic Advertiser
#3233: Mar 22nd 2024 at 11:26:40 AM

JustForFun.Grand Unified Timeline The Decade With No Name could be split into 2000-2004 and 2005-2009, much like the 90s pages.

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Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#3234: Mar 22nd 2024 at 12:35:54 PM

Spider-Man (Insomniac): Villains is giving the warning. Maybe separate the major and minor villains into two pages?

Edited by Bullman on Mar 22nd 2024 at 2:37:24 PM

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Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3236: Mar 22nd 2024 at 1:27:20 PM

I guess it was over the threshold for a long time until it just got reported.

ImageSource.Webcomics:

Not seeing any totally huge sections.

  • Freefall is about the same size of the other biggest ones left.
  • Schlock Mercenary
  • Sluggy Freelance might be the largest remaining.


Pantheon.Gaming Consequences is too long.

Edited by Malady on Mar 22nd 2024 at 3:04:09 AM

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3237: Mar 22nd 2024 at 3:08:11 PM

[up] I split off Sluggy Freelance and that fixed it. I went ahead and split off Cyanide and Happiness too, since it was at the same length (30 examples).

Freefall is at 28 examples.

Schlock Mercenary is at 25.

Edited by Twiddler on Mar 22nd 2024 at 3:09:19 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3238: Mar 22nd 2024 at 9:15:14 PM

Edited by Malady on Mar 23rd 2024 at 7:07:19 AM

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3240: Mar 24th 2024 at 2:29:35 PM

HollywoodHypeMachine.Examples That Didnt Hold Up is giving the warning.

(I think this is the largest the list of too-long pages has been for a while)

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3243: Mar 24th 2024 at 11:04:22 PM

UnintentionalPeriodPiece.Special Cases is giving the warning.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
NoonboryKedabory Fanfic Advertiser from Toobalooba Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fanfic Advertiser
#3244: Mar 25th 2024 at 1:53:30 PM

Dark Action Girl's Anime and manga section could be split off.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3245: Mar 25th 2024 at 2:12:00 PM

[up] Did so.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
NoonboryKedabory Fanfic Advertiser from Toobalooba Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fanfic Advertiser
#3246: Mar 26th 2024 at 7:47:57 AM

TriumphantExample.M To O could have the M section split into its own page

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Nethilia Girl Gang Disaster (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
Girl Gang Disaster
#3247: Mar 26th 2024 at 3:55:43 PM

Fanfics of 2020–2021 is starting to give the warning and likely should be split into two separate pages. I don't have the time to do this myself.

I know more about obscure 1990s Middle Grade Literature novels than most people.
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3248: Mar 26th 2024 at 4:09:08 PM

Woow. Is this the first time we're going Yearly? Does that mean that we should be preemptive and go yearly for fanfics now?

Edited by Malady on Mar 26th 2024 at 4:10:15 AM

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animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Animu
#3249: Mar 27th 2024 at 6:09:18 AM

My proposal to trimming Characters.Genshin Impact Sumeru is merging the Eremites with the rest of characters associated with the deserts of Sumeru. That way, I'd create a new page called Characters.Genshin Impact Sumeru Desert. It would include:

  • Aaru Village
  • The Eremites
  • The Order of Skeptics
  • The Pari
  • Historical Figures

What do you think about it?

animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Animu
#3250: Mar 28th 2024 at 1:52:00 PM

YMMV.Genshin Impact is also giving the warning because it's over 300k characters. It's harder to split than Characters.Genshin Impact Sumeru. Maybe make a page for all negative Audience Reactions to the many enemies of the game (Demonic Spiders, Goddamned Bats, Goddamned Boss and That One Boss)?

Edited by animuacid on Mar 28th 2024 at 9:52:22 AM


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