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Can't believe there isn't a Live Action TV sub-forum in here, but I couldn't find a place to add one on the main recommendations page, so I'm asking here.

Anyways, I'm looking for a high-quality TV series that has some of the grittiness of many recent acclaimed shows, but that DOESN'T feature a Villain Protagonist. Gray-and-Grey Morality? All characters are flawed in some way? The prevailing social system makes most victories fleeting? All awesome. At the same time, however, I still want to see characters who are struggling morally to do the right thing, and not just cynically looking out for themselves. (In my view, this moral struggle is the core of true drama, and Evil vs. Evil conflicts, however stylish a Magnificent Bastard they may involve, are at their heart boring.)

To give you a clue of what I like, I adored both The Wire and Friday Night Lights. Any more such shows out there?

First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

Supernatural kinda fits your requirements and is an awesome show besides.

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X Files, as well, I'd say.

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I need a series like Warhammer 40 K - Many factions, combination of magic and science, conflicts that spans entire universe. I would appreciate one that isn't so, at least as I heard, depressing.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.

give me all awesome and great works that has to do with lgbt
let it be anime (watched Hourou Musuko and plan to watch Aoi Hana)
books (Sputnik Sweetheart)
or toyota cars

This level of trolling is reasonable for Commander Obvious. What do you think of this, everyone?

I'm looking something which examines what it means to be a hero. No, not "an hero". I don't really care what genre, or how it goes with this idea. Just, a work that demonstrates and discusses what makes somebody a hero.

There's a manga called IS *

about the lives of intersexed people. It won an award from Kodansha in 2007. Does that work?

edited 1st Dec '11 2:53:28 PM by ThatHuman

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There are plenty of works that give a definition of heroism, but Monster covers pretty much every conceivable base. No, really: every definition imaginable. Good thing there's a broad cast to dole it out on.

I'm looking for something that involves someone actively seeking association with an underground society they know little about. The society can be good, evil, or just in the business of smuggling people across the border or summat, but just about every underground character I've seen either a) starts the story knowing all the secret handshakes or b) gets shanghaied by circumstance into the organization. It can't all go down that way, right? I think that would make for a pretty piffling underground society.

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Which Monster? It's a disambiguation. And well, to be more specific, I mean hero as in "does good to mankind" hero rather than "idolized by many" hero. Also, not just giving a definition, more that being/becoming a hero is important to one or more main character.

edited 11th Dec '11 11:09:20 AM by ThatHuman

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The anime. And of all the definitions, idolization plays the smallest role. And you are going to love Tenma, my friend.

edited 11th Dec '11 11:10:41 AM by DomaDoma

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Yeah, totally seconding it.

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Hmmm, anybody got more reccos? I'd especially like some sort of superhero story. When asking, I was thinking about the first opening theme of Ultraman Nexus, honestly.

edited 11th Dec '11 11:16:40 AM by ThatHuman

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Okay, I would also like a story about a superhero who is primarily concerned with helping people out. I can't think of any myself outside the sparkly-sugar-rainbow end of the Sliding Scale Long Name.

But the underground-society request still takes precedence.

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Wondering if someone could direct me to an available and good episode of MST 3 K. My geeky friends and me were going to watch the show for the first time, but I need a good episode to choose.

Go play Kentucky Route Zero. Now.

Episode 1003 is one of the handful I've seen, but it's great. There is a fine line between nightmare fuel and hilarity, especially when the purveyors of the nightmare fuel are so deeply, deeply misguided.

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Ah, Merlins Shop Of Mystical Wonders? That's a funny one, and it has Ernest Borgnine!

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@Doma Doma Guy gets hijacked into being with the underground society (black market couriers in this case) and then actively associates with it: Black Lagoon ftw.

edited 12th Dec '11 11:46:43 PM by NoirGrimoir

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My favorites so far are Overdrawn At The Memory Bank and Godzilla vs Megalon. I haven't watched that many episodes yet, though.

edited 13th Dec '11 4:50:17 AM by Fluid

I'm looking for someone who just really wants to join La Résistance, or go to the Nebulous Criminal Conspiracy so they can exert leverage on some jerk making their life hard, but doesn't really have a map.

But yeah, I think I'm watching that anyway.

edited 14th Dec '11 4:54:13 PM by DomaDoma

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Lensman in some form or another might meet those requirements. Not sure how many factions there are.

Star Wars too, but kinda doubting you haven't thought of that possibility.

Dune might satisfy a few, but I haven't watched much of it.

Basically, You probably want to find a good Space Opera.

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I'll suggest Legend Of Galactic Heroes.

ALL CREATURE WILL DIE AND ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BROKEN. THAT'S THE LAW OF SAMURAI.

Works with a similar premise to Liar Game, please. In any medium.

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And what is that premise?

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"A mysterious and nefarious organization called the Liar Game Tournament Office places innocent

people through psychological games, using their debt as bait..." The games are constructed so as to be easy to understand but difficult to control, at first glance, but promote success through skill in psychology and economics. "A plausible alternate title for the series would be Game Theory: The Manga."

edited 17th Dec '11 9:31:41 PM by Noaqiyeum

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The closest things I can think of are Death Note and Mirai Nikki.

Death Note: A Well-Intentioned Extremist Chessmaster starts killing off criminals when he finds a supernatural notebook that can kill people when you write their name in it. The story is basically him and a chessmaster detective trying to outwit each other.

Mirai Nikki: A socially awkward kid who kept a personal journal on his cellphone is pulled into a game to become the successor to the Lord Of Space-Time. His journal now shows him his journal entries from the future, and he has to use those to outwit the other contestants, who also have various types of future-telling journals.

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Seconding Death Note, on the off chance you haven't already read/seen it.

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