No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...
I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?
Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.
Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM
Point. Maybe some relatively minor temple?
Just painted one of my Tempestus Scions, using the same camo scheme as the rest of my army and... I dunno. I'm not 100% digging it. Trying to decide to paint another one in a different scheme to make a decision.
just a vindicare with inquisitorial fixing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"... Inquisitorial fixing?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.tfw you accidentally reveal that you're an assassin to a guardsman
Picked up a Vindicator, three Scout packs (2 regular, 1 w/sniper rifles), two Terminator Librarians, and a palette pad at GW on Saturday. The lady that runs the store is a hoot, very passionate about the game(s). We got to talking models and she almost literally squeed over the Warlord Titan.
The Warlord model is indeed, to use urban parlance, "hella bitchin'", but even if I had the coin to drop on it, I'd rather build my own.
Ugh, Forge World came out with an Eidolon model. Blech.
What's so awful about that?
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.that in a legion of bloody pricks(the emperor children) Eidolon stand above all, he is really unpleasent
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"It's Eidolon.
I don't like Eidolon, but he doesn't inspire in me the kind of hatred that, for example, Erebus does, and there's been an Erebus model for ages.
(I actually punched the air at the end of Fear to Tread when Horus peels off Erebus's face.)
I don't like how ornate the FW Warlord titan is. To me, leave the ornate crap to the Imperator; the Warlord always struck me as the utilitarian titan.
If it's any consolation, it looks like Eidolon wears a Cape while jump packing...
Would it be plausible if in the middle of a Tyranid invasion on an Imperial world, the Hive Mind noticed an unusually potent psyker among the human population/forces, and determined that the potency of his/her psychic power was sufficiently high enough to merit capturing this psyker alive and work on transforming him/her into a new unique Tyranid creature akin to the Swarmlord, a la Sarah Kerrigan from Starcraft?
edited 17th Aug '15 1:30:37 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Why transform him? Kill him. Eat him. integrate his dna in the hive and make new species and pump out literal armies of him. It's how the 'nids are implied to have created the Praetorians (From Space Marines) and Zoanthrope (Eldar).
Heck, Zoanthropes are made from Eldar DNA, who are even better psykers and are so OP that their literally blow their own brains out from sheer psychic power. Why would the Hive fleet care about a measly human psyker compare to that? And those Zoanthropes aren't hindered by the Shadow in the Warp the way a human psyker is.
Plus as seen with Genestealer reproduction and infiltration, the Hive mind can make psykers who are human-ish in appearance. There's really no reason it'd go around collecting human psykers and "converting" them.
edited 17th Aug '15 4:43:43 AM by CobraPrime
Psychic Powers in the WH40K-verse are not always tied to one's DNA; what matters the most is one's soul/mind. Hell, even the Adeptus Mechanicus and the Inquisition haven't been able to isolate the long-fabled "psyker gene", assuming it even exists.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.I'm not sure if the Hive Mind would understand that or not, though.
EDIT: On the other hand, the Hive Mind already has a lot of ways to subvert/dominate individuals in its path. Why not give them a try?
edited 17th Aug '15 6:11:13 AM by Durazno
...In all fairness those two organizations aren't exactly holding the bar very high here. Especially when one of them's claim to fame is "losing knowledge" and "forgetting how to do things" And seeing as all Tyranids synapse creatures are psykers, and that some breeds of 'nids are dedicated psykers and engineered as such, I'd say soul or not, the 'nids have the whole psyker thing better figured out than most species (In fact, I'd argue no one knows biology in general better than the hive mind), so I tend to concur they'd have no reason to rip off Starcraft the way it ripped them off :-P
True, but those tend to be for a specific role, and even then, that role is mostly "Fuck like rabbits and make the hive mind some proper minions".
Really, the question becomes: What could a psyker do that the hive mind CANT already do, and can't figure out to do by engineering another species. Since the 'nids are driven by purpose. A single-minded purpose. Why would it want an alien psyker? One that can be killed, and if it's not a tyranid, can't be reincarnated the way the Swarmlord or other unique 'nids can? (Therefore going agains't the entire military doctrine of the Tyranid).
edited 17th Aug '15 6:22:51 AM by Ghilz
Kerrigan would be a best a good genegleaster cult leader but that it, the hive mind move every diferent that other big players
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"edited 17th Aug '15 8:57:47 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus....Why would Tyranids want to destroy a world? hy would the hive mind create a creature that CAN destroy a world? That's a loss of resources to consume. Again, it's not about power levels, it's about purpose. Why would they need such a psyker? "Coz it's powerful" isn't a reason. What can it do that they need it to do and can't do themselves?
Besides. "I have yet to see it" well no shit. The hive fleets we currently know are scouts. Who sends their best troops to scout ahead?
Heck, it's said Tyranid psykers draw their power FROM the hive mind. It's likely that given enough Tyranids around - or with the arrival of the main body of the Tyranid fleet, the hive mind can exert power that dwarf an alpha plus human. But they don't because they don't need to. Why would they? Why would the Tyranid care? Save a few million Tyranids by doing so? What's the point? Those that die are re-consummed. Kill billions in a single move? Those billions can just be killed and consummed by Tyranids. Blow up a planet? A waste.
edited 17th Aug '15 5:54:42 PM by Ghilz
The only thing I can think of is that the Hive Mind might want a way to blow up worlds that are so built-up and fortified that it wouldn't be able to make the biomass back if it committed to taking it the old-fashioned way. If there were a barren, lifeless world with manufactories full of robots supplying munitions to the whole sector and, like, seven techpriests overseeing the whole thing, sure, Deep Impact it. (I know there are examples of the Tyranids taking forge worlds in canon, but suppose it decided that this was a waste?)
Why would it though? Sure, forge worlds aren't rich in organic matter, but the hive fleet doesn't only consume organic matter. It also consumes minerals which a forge world would have in spades. Plus, if it "really" wanted to destroy a planet,t they can do it considering the way Narwhals (Causing huge disasters by harnessing a planet's gravity) work or they could easily just fling a rock at it.
Or heck, keep it blockaded (which the shadow in the warp does) and let them starve themselves out.
In the end destroying a planet is no great feat for any species capable of intergalactic travel. The Hive fleet doesn't need a super Psyker for that.
And that's still assuming the Hive fleet would destroy a planet, as opposed to leaving and coming back later with more strengths. Since the Tyranids can recover faster than any other race from loses.
Plus a world like you describe with only 7 tech priest on it... why would the Hive Fleet go there? They are attracted by Genestealer counts, and worlds teeming with life. Such a deserted world wouldn't appeal to Tyranids, and odds are they'd know it sucks the moment they dropped Lictors in, and would just pass the place.
edited 17th Aug '15 6:29:46 PM by Ghilz
In theory, provided said human can withstand similar things to make them similarly resistant to corruption as many Space Marines. In practice, most likely not as psionics in 40k are a crapshoot at best.