Warhammer 40,000

That doesn't really jive with me; why would one of the Legions from probably the least civilized planet be obsessed with that sort of stuff?

Because the White Scars are an entire legion of speed freaks. Logically they're the ones who make the most sense to end up Slaaneshi.

because unlike other alt history this take acount the legion, the white scar here are like barbarious hordes instead of the decadent noble like the emperor children, they like to atack forgeworlds and other will a lot of thing to pillage, it also explain that later in the crusade Jaghatai indulgence allow for many psychopants and butt kisser to rise int he legion corrupting from the inside.

Also the alt legions dosent play the same aspects, the space wolf while workship khrone, they focus more in is aspect of anti sorcers rather than savage berzerket who spill blood.

That's actually a bit weird given that the word "berserk" is originally Norse.

I think they wanted a khrone legion that dosent feel like World eaters, in fact GW have a issue about making Chaos warbands feel diferent from one each other, most of the time Khrone guys are just the same.

And originally weren't the screaming devil-may-care killers of popular culture, but rather something more akin to a noble family's personal champion.

Scans of pages for the March White Dwarf including story information about the Gathering Storm III.

Double post for a quick trope question.

I notice on the character pages that the Khorne/Slaanesh and Tzeentch/Nurgle conflicts are listed as Arch-Enemy but reading the actual trope description and Laconic for the trope, it doesn't really seem to fit. Would The Rival and/or Elemental Rivalry be more appropriate?

edited 28th Feb '17 11:52:45 AM by SebastianGray

Putting aside the fact that Arch-Enemy is in TRS at the moment for Trope Decay, the opening post for the TRS thread seems to have an actually strong grasp of what the concept of "arch-enemy" is about. So using that definition ("an opponent who ranks as someone's most important enemy, with the animosity going to It's Personal levels"), I'd say Arch-Enemy is quite appropiate, because the diametrically opposed Chaos Gods want their opposites gone, plain and simple. They can accept the continued existence of the other two as rivals in the Great Game, but That One is so anathema to them that they cannot tolerate their existence, and should they ever be given the opportunity to eliminate That One once and for all, they'd take it and to hell with the consequences and costs (which, according to certain fluff like Black Crusade, has a very strong likelihood of destroying all four, hence why even Khorne has stayed his hand from smiting his degenerate "brother"... for now).

edited 28th Feb '17 1:53:52 PM by MarqFJA

strong likehood? It is what is going to do actually: if one god kill the other, the entire pantheon dies as they are all link.

That is why Malal would be so dangerous, he want to destroy the rest of the chaos gods including himself, that is insane EVEN for chaos

So...Grey Knights. Worth it?

As a tabletop force? In their current state? Not particularly. The latest iteration of their codex was during the early 7th Ed. period where GW was all "Remove all the fun options and make everything bland" before their current "Power Creep? Bitch, we got full on Power Rocket Engines!" stage of rules development.

As a result, competitive Grey Knight armies consist pretty much of Librarians and all the Dreadknights you have points for, with MSU Terminator squads as troop tax.

mutters something about the Guard still using a 6th edition codex

Great models though. For both conversion and painting.

EDIT: Grey Knights, that is. Not the Guard. Though I do like the Tempestus Scions.

edited 1st Mar '17 1:43:59 AM by disruptorfe404

Except that doesn't really seem to be the relationship between the gods. While their goals and very natures may be diametrically opposed, they are still more than willing to team up with their opposite number, something that wouldn't happen if they "want their opposites gone, plain and simple."

As always, my personal opinion on such a question is: If you like the models and/or the fluff then they are always worth it regardless of their battlefield performance. If you want to be more pragmatic however then I would say that they are best if you face Chaos a lot for obvious reasons. If you want a smaller force Codex: Imperial Agents does include a Grey Knight allied detachment consisting of a Terminator Squad alongside an optional Interceptor Squad and Dreadknight, which is a good way of using them on the battlefield quickly(the book includes all the rules for those three units).

edited 1st Mar '17 1:56:05 AM by SebastianGray

In other news, I just saw some of the first revealed words of Papa Smurf from his return. He is.... not happy:

Roboute Guilliman: "Thousands of years. And look at what has become of them. Of us. Idolatry. Ignorance. Suffering and squalor, in the name of a god who never desired the title."

Ooooooh boy. The Inquisition/High Lords of Terra are probably shitting themselves right now.

Solution: shoot Guilliman.

That wouldn't work. At all

Especially because Guilliman is just one of the Primarchs coming back. Apparently there's rumors of the Lion returning and fucking shit up hardcore

edited 1st Mar '17 9:15:36 AM by BlackSunNocturne

That's the best part of the setting.

Impossible. The best part of the setting is green and drives around fast in badly made cars while shooting mismatched bullets from crudely assembled guns.

Well, I haven't really been feeling going much further with my Salamanders, and I've noticed that as much as I like Space Marine fluff, I also really dig Inquisition-related material, and the Grey Knights are an interesting meld. Plus, I want to start working on Deathwatch models at some point, and am considering pure Inquisition as well. The question is, do I want to sell my Salamanders and use them as the coin for going that route or hang on to them in case the interest renews...

Hang onto them. Or start converting them to Deathwatch.

The choice is yours

I have to agree with. You never know what the future will bring and you may regret selling them at some point. Otherwise I would go full Inquisition but then they are one of my favourite parts of the Imperium.

Need more Knights. Give 'em to the Grey Knights, make those the new Dread Knights.

Give 'em to the Deathwatch too, it'll be great.

Give 'em to the Sisters, slap like a ton of flame weapon on 'em. Angry zealous nuns in their own personally piloted steam-punk mechas.

It'll be great.