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OP edited to make this header - Fighteer
edited 18th Sep '17 1:08:08 PM by Fighteer
For some reason, Evil characters never seem to consider the ramifications of being sent to the afterlife that they earn for their alignment. Save a few, like Xykon. Anyway, you don't remember anything that happened to you down there after you're raised.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"What's Xykon think on that again?
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%."Anything to avoid the fires down below." He views people who die as losers who couldn't hack it. Of course, this attitude change came after he became a lich.
edited 31st Mar '15 10:45:58 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Do anything you can to avoid the fires below.
Here's his words on the matter.
edited 31st Mar '15 10:47:20 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.Woah, the Soul Splice storyline was two-thirds of the way between the beginning and now. Feels much more recent.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.That story was also 6 years ago. It's kind of weird how the last third or so of Book 4 and all of Book 5 constitutes about half of the comic's real world run time.
edited 31st Mar '15 11:46:02 AM by Kostya
And it doesn't seem to get faster now. I remember that some time ago there were 2-3 updates a week, with sometimes a few weeks of break between them. But now it's around 2 weeks per update. A big difference.
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.Chronic illness will do that.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."And all the side work for the Kickstarter campaign, let's not forget.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"More detailed artwork is also a thing.
I haven't played much DND (Weird to be reading this comic then, I know) but the morality always struck me as... Really weird. If there was a quantified, fairly easily accessible measure of what is 'good' or 'evil', why would anyone ever deliberately be evil? There's actual, physical proof that you'll be going to one of the various Hells for your actions. The morality system's always been something that keeps me from being interested in DND.
Does every Evil character just not give a fuck, or do evil characters get benefits in the afterlife like good characters do?
Evil characters generally just don't give a fuck.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."Well, rarely, supremely accomplished Evil characters can skip a few ranks on the usual "get mashed into demonic paste and grind your way up through eternity" routine. Some may think that's what they're going to get, ignoring the obvious fact that their chances are infinitesimal.
In most cases, though, Evil actions stem from simple human malice and greed. One of the elements of D&D morality seems to be that Evil Feels Good and your eternity of damnation is justified by how much pleasure you derived from being a jerk in life. Correspondingly, Being Good Sucks and you are rewarded for a life of self-sacrifice by eternal happiness.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Actually knowing you'll be rewarded or punished kind of skews the whole morality thing. Are you being a Good person because it's what you genuinely believe or just because you want to get into the best afterlife?
Oddly, most mortals seem not to care, at least to go by how OOTS portrays things. Sure, some might, but that's an inherently selfish act that might just get you bounced out of Lawful Good to True Neutral once the devas get a hold of your soul.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Alignment is a result of disposition just as much as one's actions.
If you help people for purely selfish reasons, then you probably don't qualify for most good alignments.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."The Evil afterlives, however, would be more than happy to take you if you intentionally tried to get there for some reason.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"It's comparable to the criminal justice system today, in a really weird way. People know there's a good chance of getting caught, but they do stuff anyway. Whether it's because they think they won't get caught(think they'll be a higher-up instead of soul paste), or just don't care.
I'm baaaaaaackI always liked the idea that only the people who tried to be good and failed are punished in one of the hells; those who were deliberately evil are rewarded in hell instead (by becoming a devil or a demon). That's not cannon, though.
I personally think it's grapeshot.
edited 31st Mar '15 5:57:43 PM by blkwhtrbbt
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for youYeah, Dn D morality is overly reductive. Also dumb.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.Honestly, I would assume that Crystal doesn't have the brain power to consider what might happen the next day, much less the afterlife. Bozzok not caring can probably be chalked up to pride and indifference to spiritual matters. I'm not sure I can explain away an evil cleric though.
They serve an evil god, usually.
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Or no longer sentient, or reincarnated, or whatever the case may be for the specific afterlife.
I have a message from another time...