YMMV: Superman vs. the Elite

  • Anvilicious: Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped about nonviolent discourse, sure, but did Supes really need to deliver a coda to an already cheesy speech after Manchester yells at him?
  • Better Than Canon: Widely preferred to the comic book storyline it's based on.
  • Ear Worm: The music in the opening credits.
  • Faux Symbolism: More subtle than most with the Superman-as-Christ symbolism, but Clark tells Lois that someone has to show them that killing and violence at any cost. Lois responds that it means dying for them to understand.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Superman's disapproval of the Elite's means in light of Injustice: Gods Among Us which has an alternate Superman using similar methods after a Face-Heel Turn after the Joker tricked him into killing Lois Lane and their unborn child, which in turn led to Metropolis being nuked. The fact that George Newbern reprised the role again in the game adds to the harshness.
  • Like You Would Really Do It: You may assume that Supes is faking it as Status Quo Is God, but thanks to the acting and writing, you really do believe Superman's snapped.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • You can sympathize with the Elite's motivation during the whole movie, due to Strawman Has a Point. Even after they try to kill Superman, you can, to an extent, feel sorry for them due to how Superman apparently reacts. However, Black does cross it when he explicitly states his intention to obliterate the city in order to escape Superman's wrath.
    • This is also what Superman believes he would cross over if he behaved like the Elite do. And judging by Injustice: Gods Among Us, he's right.
  • One-Scene Wonder: Adult Vera. She only appears briefly to hand secret info to Lois.
  • Squick: Menagerie's urges towards promiscuity combined with the nature of her superpowers.
    • Superman defeats Menagerie by shooting her with a poison dart.... causing all the alien creatures inside her body to claw violently out of her, stopping her heart from the shock.
  • Strawman Has a Point/ Rooting for the Empire: Manchester Black may be a Well-Intentioned Extremist lambasted by Superman for his unethical and amoral methods, but it's also shown that some of his questionable actions have prevented worse harm in the future.
    Manchester Black: People don't want babysitters in spandex to spank them when they're bad. They want surgeons to cut out the cancers that fester in us and make sure they never come back.
    • This debate is very old. Both sides present valid arguments, but both sides views are also flawed as well. Superman's side was deconstructed in the first half, The Elite's side deconstructed in the second half. While the film does pick Superman's side, in the end, the movie presents valid arguments from both sides for viewers to interpret for themselves. And let's leave it at that.
    • You might want to consider The Elite forcibly enslaved a sentient being to their will, and said being was suffering And I Must Scream. Superman freed the creature from its torment.
    • There's also this:
      Superman: You can't kill people and continue to call yourselves heroes.
      Manchester Black: Why not? Your government does it all the time.
      • However, that's a classic strawman point. Superman never pretended to write laws, or govern a populace.
    • Manchester also says that the Elite will be safe from Superman if they are with "the sheep" (that is, innocent people). They're counting on Superman not causing the collateral damage that they have no problem with.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: A lot of fans dislike the change of Superman actually depowering the Elite (he only had them imprisonned in the comic), as they felt it kinda went against his point.