WMG / Sony's Spider-Man Universe

• Venom (2018)
• Venom: Let There Be Carnage
• Morbius (2022)
• Madame Web (2024)
• Kraven the Hunter (2024)

Connections to other Marvel Universes

Connections with Into the Spiderverse

Introducing a new live action Peter Parker would be awfully redundant since he's already in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and bringing Tom Holland in Sony's verse would be a PR and brand recognition nightmare (at least as long as Kevin Feige refuses any crossover with the MCU). Still, nothing says Sony doesn't have the right to use, say, Miles Morales for instance, if the feeling that the new film universe really lacks of Spidey action starts to kick in. The end credits of Venom mentioned that Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse occurs at the same time in another universe, so there are definitely ways to make full use of The Multiverse for crossovers with Spider-Men to happen. The only issue would have to be the change of media from animation to live-action.

These movies will, on Sony's part, be Loose Canon in relation to the Marvel Cinematic Universe

The Sony films, while never directly referencing the events of the MCU or specific characters, will have stories that don't contradict the idea that it takes place in a few corners of a larger Marvel universe. Then, if they ever do have Spider-Man cross over into them, they won't need to use an "alternate world" story; they can just retroactively made canon.

• Possibly Confirmed, as despite his removal from the MCU officially, Tom Holland could still retain his role, and thus they could possibly retcon his prior adventures from Captain America: Civil War onward.
• Possibly Fully Confirmed, thanks to Sony and Marvel going back to the deal and if Morbius is any indication.
• Either that, or while Holland could still play him, he'd be revamped to be fresh for this universe, maybe even reinserting Mary Jane, Harry, Jameson, Norman, and Uncle Ben back into his life as opposed to removing them.
• Or they'll just do what DC does best and recast him.

At the end of Spider-Man: No Way Home, Tom Holland's Spider-Man will wind up here in Sony's Spider-Man Universe

His overarching storyline will be about attempting to return to his universe (likely thanks to Madame Web), but not before laying the groundwork for things like the white spider symbol on Venom and the introduction of other characters like Spider-Woman and Silk. In the MCU, his role is likely to be taken over by Miles Morales in the meantime.

• The Kraven film, then, will actually be a full-fledged Spider-Man film, they just can't reveal it yet without spoiling No Way Home's ending.
• Jossed

Villains that might end up transported in the Marvel Cinematic Universe

Venom has been briefly transported in the mid-credits scene and with No Way Home setting up Villains that might be appearing in the future of Spider-Man films, any of Spider-Man’s enemies will likely encounter him in his second trilogy.

• Morbius
• Kraven the Hunter
• Black Cat

The SSMU and MCU will merge after Secret Wars

Avengers: Secret Wars will Sof Reboot the multiverse and Ret-Canon the SSMU to have always been a part of the MCU.

Other

The Kraven the Hunter movie will be an origin story set in the past

It will depict a young Sergei Kravinoff having to leave Russia, ending up in the heart of Africa, and growing into his role. If they do avert Adaptational Heroism, it will also be a Protagonist Journey to Villain kind of tale, with a different hero being made into his target in the present day of the film.

Jackpot will be Mary Jane Watson

They aren't using the character in the MCU Spider-Man movies, which means Sony could use the character themselves and make her a Composite Character with Jackpot (who was teased as being her in the comics before that was revealed to be a Red Herring).

• This would actually explain why there was so much confusion/mystery around Zendaya's MCU character of Michelle; Marvel Studios may have been planning on using her, but Sony had plans to use her themselves.

As Phase One did, the films will culminate in a crossover between all the protagonists, forming an original team not from the comics.

Venom and Black Cat will become close friends, and Spider-Man could inspire them both to opening up to the other conflicted and ineffective heroes

If Peter Parker were to appear in the Sony Marvel Universe....

.....it will mark the return of Andrew Garfield's Spidey instead of Tom Holland, therefore making the entire universe a Fully Absorbed Finale to the TASM films.

• Would he really want to come back, though? The producers who were in charge of the TASM movies are essentially the same for that new movie verse, and he had major Creative Differences with them. Working on TASM2 very likely soured him for life about big budget movies.

Tom Holland will appear as Spider-Man in a future film

He'll help tie all the spin-offs together, thereby making this into something we could call "Sony's Spider-Verse".

• Apparently confirmed as of September 2019, with Tom Holland himself confirming he will play Spidey on this verse as well as the MCU.

This Verse will be a Fully Absorbed Finale to MCU Spidey

Given Tom Holland confirmed his return, and the writers of FFH's sequel said the third film will continue the story of the last one, this is pretty much a given.

• Alternatively, even though Tom will continue to portray him, he will be heavily retooled to better fit this universe, including a new costume, an Age Lift and different history. While he could still have fought against Vulture and Mysterio at some point in his past, it wouldn't be exactly as it occurred in Homecoming or Far From Home, it'd allow Harry, MJ, Flash, Norman, and other important Spider-Man characters the MCU eschewed back into the narrative, rather eschewing the cast of the other two movies. In addition, Sally Field and J. K. Simmons could reprise their roles as Aunt May and Jameson as a Mythology Gag, rather than Marisa Tomei.
  • Wait...how would they make Peter older if he's still played by the same actor?
    • Simple. Tom Holland is Older Than He Looks, and has played 15-to-18-year-old Spider-Man at ages 19 to 25. The Spider-Man native to the SSU would be exactly Holland's age.
  • J. K. Simmons has already reprised the role within the world of Marvel Studios' works. Also, if they aren't using the Amazing versions of the characters, why would they bring in a version played by Sally Field, especially since she claims she only took her part in those films as a favor?
    • Money.
    • No offense to Miss Field, but is she really that a huge a draw to suggest hiring her would be like printing money?
  • Do they really need a heavy retool of continuity to just have Peter simply meet Harry and his dad, or meet and date Mary Jane if things don't work out with Michelle? Why use Remember the New Guy? instead of just that? It's not like he has to meet everyone important to his life while in high school, right?
    • I think so.
    • Well, no. He doesn't. Some retcons are one thing; saying Harry and Peter have some preexisting relationship could work, but having them having always been best friends wouldn't. Having Flash become more like his traditional comics' incarnation could work, but recasting him with a huge, burly blond guy would just confuse general audiences. Having Peter hook up with a traditional Mary Jane Watson could be done well, but making it so she was always his high school girlfriend wouldn't work, and possibly upset people. The movies are going to be different from the comics (where, no, Peter didn't meet everyone in high school and lot of prominent characters in the mythos only started appearing when he entered college any), and Sony aren't so beholden to said comics that they'd stop trying to make their movies be linked to the MCU, as they're clearly attempting to do. Hell, Venom and Morbius have taken great liberties with the source material, namely with the lack of Peter Parker in their origin stories, so they wouldn't have to change much about him to have him fit in.

Villains that might be appearing in the Sony’s Spider-Man Universe as Villain Protagonists

Since the Spider-Man Universe focuses on Spider-Man’s Rogues Gallery of Enemies, the rest of his other enemies will likely be focused in as well.

• Vulture
• Scorpion
• Rhino
• The Green Goblin
• Doctor Octopus
• Electro
• Sandman
• Kraven the Hunter
• Tombstone
• Molten Man
• Hammerhead
• Cletus Kasady
  • Except, he will be a Posthumous Villain Protagonist.
• Hydro-Man
• Hobgoblin
• Mister Negative
• Silver Sable
• Silvermane
• Lizard
• Chameleon
• Black Cat
• Red Goblin
• Boomerang
• Trapster
• The Grim Reaper
• Gustav Friers
• Dennis Carradine
• Coldheart
• Beetle
• Jackal
• Scorpia
• White Rabbit
• Jack O'Lantern
• Shriek
  • Except, she will be a Posthumous Villain Protagonist.
• Calypso
• Swiss Miss
• Iron Spider
• Bombshell
• Spot
• Morlun
• Calypso
• Rose
• Black Tarantula
• BIG WHEEL

Spider-Man will eventually become the Hero Antagonist of the SMU

• Since it mostly focuses on his Rogues Gallery, depicting them as sympathetic Anti-Heroes, put their perception of morality and methods conflict with his own. His coming to blows with each of them being a case of Poor Communication Kills.

In the event Tom Holland doesn't continue to portray Spidey after his third movie, I've got a good idea for a replacement

• Devon Bostick. Now before any of you go apeshit, lemme just say that Devon's portrayal of Rodrick was amazing and shows he can play a quippy, goofy character like Peter no problem, the same way the MCU did and just have him show up by the end of Morbius and then an introduction scene in Venom 2 or Black Cat.

Should Norman Osborn appear, he'll physically transform into Green Goblin using a formula like in the Ultimate Comics continuity

This will help differentiate the villain from the previous big screen Goblins.

There will eventually be a full-blown Spider-Man film featuring the characters introduced in these films interacting with the good ol' webhead

Peter, still portrayed by Tom Holland, will end up in San Francisco, where he encounters an evil threat that threatens himself, Venom, Morbius, Black Cat, and maybe even Nightwatch and Jackpot. Madame Web could be the one to warn them all of the coming danger. The antagonist could be either Norman Osborn or perhaps another villain who hasn't appeared on film before, such as Miles Warren as the Jackal or Morris Bench as the real Hydro-Man.

There'll be a Slingers movie

There have been rumors that the character of Dusk may be getting a movie, and it got me thinking about this possibility. If the Dusk movie really happens, it may inspire confidence in giving the team she was on a film as well, featuring her alongside Ricochet, Prodigy, and Hornet.

There will be a She-Venom solo movie

Michelle Williams has said that she would like to star in a possible She-Venom solo movie.

Spider-Man is dead

The poster of Spider-Man had the word "murderer" spray painted on it, suggesting he has been accused of murder like the MCU version. Given how this sort of plot has happened to the character often in the comics, it's possible that in this version a bounty was placed on him and someone succeeded in killing him. Perhaps it was even Kraven, and his film will show him dealing with the fact he's actually killed his greatest enemy.

All of this. Literally ALL OF this was done for one sole reason...

They desperately want to culminate the universe into The Amazing Spider-Man 3, with our favorite wall-crawler engaging in a big showdown with the Sinister Six. I mean, look at how poorly they handled the start of the team's formation in Morbius. They don't care for the Rogues gallery. They care about making that third Amazing Spider-Man movie happen already.

In case the aforementioned threequel does happen, here's how the SSU Peter's backstory plays out

Due to it presumably being an alternate version of Webb's films, Peter from that reality got saddened by Gwen's death so much he completely retired from being Spider-Man, hiding out in Europe, leading to the crime rate increase in the city. Also, if he's blamed for murder like the MCU Spider-Man, it's not for Mysterio's murder, but Gwen's, as he was there when she got accidentally killed from the impact.

Casting Theories

Spider-Man

Since there is a Spider-Man confirmed to be in the SSMU, there are a few possibilities on who he’ll be played by.

• Spider-Man:
  • Logan Lerman
  • Devin Bostick

Anti-Heroes

• Black Cat: Dove Cameron, Anya Taylor-Joy, Avril Lavigne
• Silver Sable: Anna Hutchison, Dakota Fanning

Villains

• Sinister Six:
  • Green Goblin: Dane Dehaan

• Walter The Cat: Gary Oldman
• Tombstone: Ron Perlman
• Big Mother: Brooke Candy
• Grendel: Cameron Monaghan

Allies

• Silk: Piper Curda, Arden Cho, Jessica Jung, Krystal Jung, Bae Suzy, Lana Condor
• Jackpot: Creator/Alexandra Daddario, Karen Gillan, Rose Leslie or Creator/Amy Adams
• Mary Jane: Shailene Woodley
• Mania: Billie Eilish

---